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Old 04-05-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Just wondering, would superman have a gay friend? LOL Really? Fantasy myths?

 
Old 04-05-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Today with a president who is from a Black liberation theology church, he is accepting all secular and socialist views and the media is following and supporting him in his quest to slowly transform this country into a MORE secular country . Family values and morals are being thrown away as this president leads us into social justice which is another word for government power to distribute wealth. This is immoral at the root and has been first accepted by religious churches but now is regarded as unacceptable. One cannot distribute that which is someone elsed through law. This is communist thinking and communism does not work. Why? It takes out the incentive to work and brings poverty accross the board. Why should one work harder only to have someone take away what they worked for. If one worked 20 more hours a week and didn't get paid for those extra hours how many would continue to work overtime? Not many. And the one that didn't work at all got the same paycheck. Then who would want to work?

The laws are generally passed by the popularity connected to the public. If enough positive public opinion is formed then the bill is more likely to pass. Who is in power is also a big factor...that is why Obamacare passed with arm twisting and not by popular opinion. No one knew what was in the bill anyway so how could it be a popular bill?
When you extoll the virtues of moral relativism and situational ethics, the framework of your moral compass is obvious.

The left dismisses boundaries yet they want people to pony up tax money to fix the wreckage caused by restricting or removing boundaries. Liberals love to create a crisis then stick us up to pay for it. They create a 'victim' society in order to be able to justify their existence/need to swoop in to 'save' us via programs.

You're correct with respect to how the libs want an egalitarian society. It is not unlike communist China where all dress the same and earn the same.
The bottom line is that libs want to have us dependent on them as they erode the individual while promoting the collective.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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With everything going on in the world, do you actually think that Jesus is concerned with what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their home?

Children are starving. Innocent people are being slaughtered all over the world. But Jesus cares about the genitalia of two people who love each other.

I am starting to dislike your Jesus more and more.
Well it is the only Jesus there is in the bible.. some came to hate him so much they put him on the cross because he came to seek and save them from their sins. Jesus also knew from beginning to end. He knew he would be crucified by those who opposed him.

God loves you while you are a sinner . His love is unconditional. His love is greater than any person on earth could love you. You can hate him all you want. Jesus still loves you.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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Wrong.

Practicing homosexuality is the sin in Christianity. Practicing gay people are the same as active murderer in the eyes of Christianity.

Jesus would say to love the "sinner" not the "sin", which means love people but do not condone sinful actions and champion it.
You apparently didn't read my post.

The question is not about whether practicing homosexuality is a sin in Christianity or whether Jesus would approve. That's what you and your types have been trying to argue and interject this whole time. We've argued that subject on here until we're blue in the face.

The question is whether Jesus would have allowed practicing homosexuals to follow Him. You HAVE to answer that question with a "yes" or else you are saying that God's love is limited. That goes against the very nature of God, Jesus, and all biblical principles. Also, all of humanity is guilty of living a continuously sinful life. It might be due to arrogance or pride or something like that. But it's still sinful, and it has nothing to do with sexual orientation.

The point is that Jesus welcomes everybody. Does He approve of all of your behaviors? No. But that's what is being asked here.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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God loves you while you are a sinner . His love is unconditional. His love is greater than any person on earth could love you. You can hate him all you want. Jesus still loves you.
Loves you so much that they'll condemn to eternal agony for not worshipping them or following their insane rules. Swell guys!
 
Old 04-05-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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You apparently didn't read my post.

The question is not about whether practicing homosexuality is a sin in Christianity or whether Jesus would approve. That's what you and your types have been trying to argue and interject this whole time. We've argued that subject on here until we're blue in the face.

The question is whether Jesus would have allowed practicing homosexuals to follow Him. You HAVE to answer that question with a "yes" or else you are saying that God's love is limited. That goes against the very nature of God, Jesus, and all biblical principles. Also, all of humanity is guilty of living a continuously sinful life. It might be due to arrogance or pride or something like that. But it's still sinful, and it has nothing to do with sexual orientation.

The point is that Jesus welcomes everybody. Does He approve of all of your behaviors? No. But that's what is being asked here.
To follow Jesus is to become Christ like. If one follows Jesus they do it with a purpose. If a sinner follows Jesus they would want to hear his word and the word of Jesus edified and cleanses the soul of all unrighteousness.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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Well it is the only Jesus there is in the bible.. some came to hate him so much they put him on the cross because he came to seek and save them from their sins. Jesus also knew from beginning to end. He knew he would be crucified by those who opposed him.

God loves you while you are a sinner . His love is unconditional. His love is greater than any person on earth could love you. You can hate him all you want. Jesus still loves you.
Where did you see hate in my post?
 
Old 04-05-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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To follow Jesus is to become Christ like. If one follows Jesus they do it with a purpose. If a sinner follows Jesus they would want to hear his word and the word of Jesus edified and cleanses the soul of all unrighteousness.
So you're not a follower of Jesus. Because you are definitely not anywhere near Christ like.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Jesus followed the Jewish faith.
Jesus came as the Jewish messiah and many did not want to recognize him as such . Also God blinded the Jew as it was the time of the gentile to come in ..The gentiles were grafted into the tree of life of the faith in God through Jesus Christ.
 
Old 04-05-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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God also says we do not know when and how we die, we must be ready to face God . Hitler was lead by satan. If a Christian dies their body is killed or murdered by satan, but they will have everlasting life through Christ. Do not fear those who can kill the body, but fear him how can kill soul and body.
New International Version (©2011)
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. New Living Translation (©2007)
"Don't be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell.


I don't believe in predestination as you stated.. one has control of ones life. NO ONE is predestined and set in concrete as what happens to them.. if anyone continues in sin they will be predestined to not to enter into the kingdom of God..their CHOICE... that is what predestined means.. broad is the road to destruction and many be there to take it.. narrow is the way that leads to eternal life.. we choose our destiny. What is predestined is the narrow road . One where they must accept Jesus Christ as savior.

A child who never hears the gospel will not be judged as an adult that hears the word of God and rejects it. God knows all and he can do what he wants at all times... the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord, but perfect love of God casts out fear.
You don't get what I'm saying here.

His omniscience means that he can judge me BEFORE I'm born since he not only created me, but knows what I'm gonna do long before I ever do it. That means that I have no free will to change it.

His omniscience deems the concept of "free will" to be complete nonsense.

Omnipotence and omniscience are mutually exclusive in this case. It means that he can't change things that only he knows will happen.

I'm sorry, but Christianity simply isn't logical unless one suspends all common sense.
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