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Old 04-05-2013, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You can only do apples to apples comparison back to 1995 since they changed how they measure unemployment in 1994.
Previous to that you need to re-calculate from 1995 to the present to get the "same numbers".

Shadow stats does that ...23% unemployment is what they get.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:42 PM
 
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Actually boomers are working longer into life than any previous generation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/bo...n-booming.html

The stock and housing crash of the last 5 years really did a number on 401k plans requiring boomers to work even more.

In summation, your wrong.
You obviously haven't been paying attention lately to the stock or housing markets.

The stock markets are now back to their pre-bubble values, meaning a lot of 401K's have regained their values. Furthermore housing in most large markets has started moving again. If you're a Boomer who put off retiring because your house and investments lost value, now is the time to move. I know in my neighborhood, in the last month I've seen 13 houses go on the market, 11 sold within a week, one within a month, and one holdout who's overpriced and won't budge on price. All but one are retirees.

Each Boomer who retires is a boon to business, since it typically opens upward mobility in the companies and they then hire someone new at the bottom (at a lower salary than the retiree). The most important thing we can do now is get Boomer out of workforce and into retirement.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Yep.

Unemployment is 1979 level.

When Jimmah Cartah was prez.
That is scary. Do you remember what happened with inflation in 1979??
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:01 PM
 
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Gotta love how the right includes people retiring in the numbers "giving up looking"! You realize baby boomers are retiring in huge numbers right?
Doesn't matter what the baby boomers are doing, the population of this country is growing at an incredible rate, immigration rates are higher than ever and Obama wants to increase them. In Oct 2006, the population passed 300,000,000 and in just 6 short years it was 313,914,040. Over 2.5 million a year newly added people every year, and job growth doesn't begin to keep up with that. In addition, the retirement age is rising, Americans are working many years longer.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yep.

Unemployment is 1979 level.

When Jimmah Cartah was prez.
It's actually worse because UE was not calculated the same in 1979 as it is today.
UE back then included long term unemployed. Today it does not.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You obviously haven't been paying attention lately to the stock or housing markets.

The stock markets are now back to their pre-bubble values, meaning a lot of 401K's have regained their values. Furthermore housing in most large markets has started moving again. If you're a Boomer who put off retiring because your house and investments lost value, now is the time to move. I know in my neighborhood, in the last month I've seen 13 houses go on the market, 11 sold within a week, one within a month, and one holdout who's overpriced and won't budge on price. All but one are retirees.

Each Boomer who retires is a boon to business, since it typically opens upward mobility in the companies and they then hire someone new at the bottom (at a lower salary than the retiree). The most important thing we can do now is get Boomer out of workforce and into retirement.
The height of the baby boomer births was 1957..you have another decade to go before these people are at retirement age. The youngest boomers are only 48 so that's another 20 years.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:10 PM
 
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The unemployment in our state (IL) is currently 9.5% BTW. Last month it was 9%... Don't know where they get this 7.6%
IL hasn't been there for many many years.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:16 PM
 
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This is the new normal people. I will be shocked if America ever has an unemployment rate below 7% ever again. Without bubbles, America's economy cannot thrive, and there won't be any economic bubbles for decades to come.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Let's test your theory using government data from the Social Security Administration.

53,723,000 January 2013 Monthly Snapshot
53,597,000 December 2013 Monthly Snapshot
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126,000 new persons receiving either Social Security Retirement or Social Security Disability benefits.

53,880,000 February 2013 Monthly Snapshot
53,723,000 January 2013 Monthly Snapshot
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157,000 new persons receiving either Social Security Retirement or Social Security Disability benefits.

Note that persons on receiving Social Security Retirement or Social Security Disability benefits may be employed, or seeking work and thus part of the Civilian Labor Force.

Source: Monthly Statistical Snapshot, February 2013

As I pointed out on another thread, an average of about 135,000 are either retiring or approved for SSDI each month, so your claims that a "fraction of the Baby Boomers" is making a massive dent, and that 200,000 retire each month has been soundly destroyed.


Mircea
People become eligible for Social Security at age 62.

Beginning in 2011, 10,000 people a day turn 65- about 300,000 a month.

Not all of them apply for SS or Medicare at 65. Many who are able, postpone Social Security until age 70.

The crude death rate for all ages is about 6,744 per day- about 202,000 a month. It's reasonable to assume 20-25% of these deaths are seniors.

Baby Boomers Retire | Pew Research Center
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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People become eligible for Social Security at age 62.

Beginning in 2011, 10,000 people a day turn 65- about 300,000 a month.

Not all of them apply for SS or Medicare at 65. Many who are able, postpone Social Security until age 70.

The crude death rate for all ages is about 6,744 per day- about 202,000 a month. It's reasonable to assume 20-25% of these deaths are seniors.

Baby Boomers Retire | Pew Research Center
Full retirement at 65 ended for those born 1937 or earlier.
Those turning 65 in 2011 were born in 1948 and didn't qualify for full retirement.

Boomers can't get full retirement until they turn 66-67 depending on their year of birth.


Retirement Planner: Benefits By Year Of Birth
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