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mmmmm, well there is evidence that Trayvon was shot with Zimmerman's gun. Medical Examiner's report. He bought it legally.
We know that Zimmerman shot Martin, I don't think he's ever denied that nor has anyone claimed that anything other than that took place. Shooting someone doesn't always equal murder, that's what most people in here don't seem to understand.
There are a number of situations where GZ could have been completely justified in shooting Trayvon Martin, GZ's version of what took place is one of those situations.
We know that Zimmerman shot Martin, I don't think he's ever denied that nor has anyone claimed that anything other than that took place. Shooting someone doesn't always equal murder, that's what most people in here don't seem to understand.
There are a number of situations where GZ could have been completely justified in shooting Trayvon Martin, GZ's version of what took place is one of those situations.
You're right, there are situations where people are justified in shooting someone else. Of course, in this case, whether or not GZ shot him in self-defense is disputed, so we're going to have a trial. I was responding to your post about aliens swooping down, killing Martin, and planting a gun on Zimmerman....
Oh, my. So now it's against the law to talk to someone?
That's just plain funny.
Verbally confronted. A new thing for idiots to be offended about.
This is how to verbally confront someone. We really don't know what Zimmerman said to Martin.
"Fighting words are written or spoken words, generally expressed to incite hatred or violence from their target.[1] Specific definitions, freedoms, and limitations of fighting words vary by jurisdiction. It is also used in a general sense of words that when uttered tend to create (deliberately or not) a verbal or physical confrontation by their mere usage."
No, genius, it's not against the law to talk to someone. You jump to amazingly absurd conclusings, and, again you show your lack of knowledge, but that's nothing new, so let me explain. This is how to verbally confront someone. We really don't know what Zimmerman said to Martin.
"Fighting words are written or spoken words, generally expressed to incite hatred or violence from their target.[1] Specific definitions, freedoms, and limitations of fighting words vary by jurisdiction. It is also used in a general sense of words that when uttered tend to create (deliberately or not) a verbal or physical confrontation by their mere usage."
On the contrary FancyFeast. Last Friday, I was accosted by a shopper in a retail store, the event escalated to the parking lot, and I called a cop. The man was arrested for disorderly conduct among other things, the prosecutor in this case is going to have a field day with this defendant, because there were not only witnesses, he gave the cops a hard time too. While he was being arrested, he was threatening me, and this was all noted on the police report.
It's amazing how many geniuses there are using the forum.
In fact, Trayvon was a temporary resident of that condo complex (obviously you're having trouble comprehending that), living with his father and his father's girlfriend.
That is certainly what the State is contending, and I've seen NOTHING, ZERO, from the defense denying that fact. Here's the Probable Cause Affidavit from the case file in the Clerk's Office. First sentence in Paragraph 5. Are you allergic to reading any updisputed facts in this case?
On the contrary FancyFeast. Last Friday, I was accosted by a shopper in a retail store, the event escalated to the parking lot, and I called a cop. The man was arrested for disorderly conduct among other things, the prosecutor in this case is going to have a field day with this defendant, because there were not only witnesses, he gave the cops a hard time too. While he was being arrested, he was threatening me, and this was all noted on the police report.
It's amazing how many geniuses there are using the forum.
You're right......indeed there are limitations to that free speech thing. Very interesting.
It's amazing and amusing how some people absolutely believe they are geniuses.
I don't know what you mean by 'Zimmerman VERBALLY confronted Martin.' Even the phone friend didn't hear gz VERBALLY confront tm, unless 'What are are you doing around here' is a confrontation.
Your reach for a plausible scenario for how the shooting happened is 'possible,' but contradicts the known evidence. Though witnesses don't agree on everything, too many describe a struggle, or wrestling, or punches, two guys on the ground one on top of the other, for your scenario to be plausible. There's also the cries for help, which lasted too long to fit your idea. Unless your next possibility is that it was gz screaming after shooting tm or tm was screaming while moving downward toward gz.
I agree that his bruises and injuries aren't consistent with the beating gz described.
I also agree that the amount of thc in tm's blood proves that Martin was certainly not a "dope smoking fiend" the night the shooting took place. I'll add the caveat, since we're dealing with 'possibilities' that his walking around had a purpose other than returning home with Skittles and iced tea. See, I can get Skittles and iced tea into a post.
Approaching a stranger and saying "What are you doing around here" could very well be confrontational....lots of things to consider like tone of voice, body language, etc. If someone walked up to me at night when I was out walking around in a neighborhood where I'd been a guest and the first words out of their mouth was "What are you doing around here" I'd consider it confrontational......and rude, and I would be offended. You say witnesses heard arguing. Confrontational words very often lead to fist fights.
Zimmerman claims he was the person screaming, so it seems that is a disputed fact? Is it factually incorrect that Martin was found to have Skittles and iced tea on him that night?
Btw, you didn't answer my previous question about the girlfriend possibly having a low IQ or some other mental impairment, and that may be the reason why she didn't tell anyone immediately after Trayvon was killed and may be the reason she can't spell his name, and the reason there has been some confusion as to her actually being a "girlfriend" as opposed to a friend who happens to be a girl, etc., etc. Some kids with low IQs just aren't able to understand the gravity of serious situations and are also very fearful of doing something wrong and getting in trouble. I think you posted once that you had listened to the taped interview of this girl by the State; if so, what was your impression of her answers in terms of being articulate and fully understanding what was going on?
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...indeed there are limitations to that free speech thing. Very interesting.
