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Old 04-06-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's really not my place to question what Jesus would have done. I wouldn't even question it if he asked an unrepentant sinner to follow him because I wouldn't even pretend to know what the future held.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:13 PM
 
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Inquiring minds want to know!

Note: I am putting this here and not in the religion forum because it is a direct response to another thread here.
Jesus took everyone from where they were at. He preached repentance.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:15 PM
 
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Some christians have created a "biblical loophole". It's called the "Love the sinner, hate the sin" loophole.

They dont hate the homosexual, they hate Gay marriage. The individual Homosexual is not the focus of their ire, the re-definition of marriage is.

God works in mysterious ways.
That is not a loophole.
If someone you know and love commits a crime, do you hate them or what they did?
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Jesus took everyone from where they were at. He preached repentance.
True, but also He said "sin no more", and anyone who had no intent of repenting, and resisting sin, rejected His offer. Not everyone wanted to follow Him.

The real question is "can habitual sinners follow Christ", not "would Jesus allow them to follow", because as you said anyone who repents and wishes to obey Christ, would be allowed to follow, but many did not want to have anything to do with Him. The choise to follow (or not) is on the people. So, can a habitual sinner follow Christ? The answer: Yes, if he/she is willing to repent and obey His instruction "sin no more", and leave the life of willing and habitual sin in the past. People who are not willing to give up habitual sins, are by defenition not followers of Christ. Maybe one day that will change, but a still pacticing sinner is not a follower.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Some christians have created a "biblical loophole". It's called the "Love the sinner, hate the sin" loophole.

They dont hate the homosexual, they hate Gay marriage. The individual Homosexual is not the focus of their ire, the re-definition of marriage is.

God works in mysterious ways.
Those are Ghandi's words, but they are in line of what Jesus taught. It is not a loophole.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:28 PM
 
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True, but also He said "sin no more", and anyone who had no intent of repenting, and resisting sin, rejected His offer. Not everyone wanted to follow Him.

The real question is "can habitual sinners follow Christ", not "would Jesus allow them to follow", because as you said anyone who repents and wishes to obey Christ, would be allowed to follow, but many did not want to have anything to do with Him. The choise to follow (or not) is on the people. So, can a habitual sinner follow Christ? The answer: Yes, if he/she is willing to repent and obey His instruction "sin no more", and leave the life of willing and habitual sin in the past. People who are not willing to give up habitual sins, are by defenition not followers of Christ. Maybe one day that will change, but a still pacticing sinner is not a follower.
I agree. If you think that claiming Jesus as your Savior gives you a license to sin then you've used your 'salvation' to keep sinning. Jesus looks at the heart.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Inquiring minds want to know!

Note: I am putting this here and not in the religion forum because it is a direct response to another thread here.
If the gossiper makes a serious effort to repent, of course. Look being a homosexual is not bad it's the unrepentant attitude and the attempts to equate it to heterosexual marriage that are the problem.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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True, but also He said "sin no more", and anyone who had no intent of repenting, and resisting sin, rejected His offer. Not everyone wanted to follow Him.

The real question is "can habitual sinners follow Christ", not "would Jesus allow them to follow", because as you said anyone who repents and wishes to obey Christ, would be allowed to follow, but many did not want to have anything to do with Him. The choise to follow (or not) is on the people. So, can a habitual sinner follow Christ? The answer: Yes, if he/she is willing to repent and obey His instruction "sin no more", and leave the life of willing and habitual sin in the past. People who are not willing to give up habitual sins, are by defenition not followers of Christ. Maybe one day that will change, but a still pacticing sinner is not a follower.
Exactly. It's odd that people are having problem distinguishing between the two.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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Yes he did, the disciples did gossip.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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What would Obama do?
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