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Old 04-07-2013, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Iraq War Veteran Tomas Young joined the Army because our country had been attacked. He wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of his fellow citizens. He did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States.

He was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. His life is coming to an end and he is living under hospice care.




Dying Iraq War Veteran Writes Last Letter To Bush And Cheney

4,488 soldiers and Marines died in Iraq.
I am sure many, if not most, Americans agree the Iraq war was one the worst mistakes this country has ever made.

 
Old 04-07-2013, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Bush started the war with Congressional approval, and Congressional funding.
Iraq should have never happened. There were no direct threats to the US from Iraq. There were no threats to other ME countries, and if there were, it would not have been the business of the US to get involved. With other countries possessing WMD (nuclear/chemicalbiological/nuclear) at that time, in one or more ways, why Iraq?

Congress, and the American people, were convinced by Bush, based on lies and incomplete investigations and/or misinformation, that invading Iraq was necessary for the security of America. This was, in most part, orchestrated by Majestro Cheney who sent his puppet Bush out to deliver the message. Bush convinced Congress and the Americans the US would find WMD and it would be "quick and easy".

Bush opened a Pandora's Box with Iraq.
 
Old 04-07-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: exit 0
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Let's get back to the topic, folks...

Dying Iraq Veteran writes letter to Bush and Cheney
 
Old 04-07-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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He made clear he was starting the war with or without Congress, as did his father in 1991.

Yes, Congress should've refused to vote an authorization and refused funding, but that does not alter the fact that only one person had the authority to order the guns to fire and the bombs to drop.
Why not blame Clinton? He signed the order for regime change in Iraq. It could be said Bush just carried out the order.

Bush could NOT have invaded Iraq WITHOUT the authority from Congress, which had a DEM controlled Senate.

The Senate Majority Leader CO-SPONSORED the bill.

To try and "blame" Bush alone is either ignorant of the facts or very partisan.
 
Old 04-07-2013, 11:30 AM
 
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Yet Bush, Cheney, Rove and Rumsfeld sleep like babies. They're due some serious karma.
Pure partisan.

Why don't you include ALL the DEMs who voted in FAVOR of giving Bush the AUTHORITY?

Don't you hold them JUST as RESPONSIBLE? If Not, WHY NOT?
 
Old 04-07-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Why not blame Clinton? He signed the order for regime change in Iraq. It could be said Bush just carried out the order.
I do blame Clinton for signing that. It was disgusting. I do not blame him for invading Iraq, because he did not invade Iraq.

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Bush could NOT have invaded Iraq WITHOUT the authority from Congress, which had a DEM controlled Senate.
Presidents attack other countries without Congressional authorization routinely--most recently Libya. Bush said many times that he was going to war with or without a formal approval from Congress, as did Bush 41 in 1991.
 
Old 04-07-2013, 11:38 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Bush self proclaimed himself as a war president, the events of 9/11/01 gave him the reason to act upon his proclamation. Going to war on doctored and inaccurate intelligence on his part was a huge mistake.

I don't blame this soldier one bit for calling out the chicken hawks, he did it so eloquently.


I'M A WAR PRESIDENT says BUSH - YouTube

Bush got his wish for war.
 
Old 04-07-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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Pure partisan.

Why don't you include ALL the DEMs who voted in FAVOR of giving Bush the AUTHORITY?

Don't you hold them JUST as RESPONSIBLE? If Not, WHY NOT?
That authority was given to encourage Saddam to allow the weapons inspectors into the country and it worked.It was not a declaration of war.One man and one man alone was responsible for this fiasco.
 
Old 04-07-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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That authority was given to encourage Saddam to allow the weapons inspectors into the country and it worked.It was not a declaration of war.One man and one man alone was responsible for this fiasco.
Exactly:
Read the timeline chicken hawks: not you magoo, you're much more in the know.
Disarming Saddam-A Chronology of Iraq and UN Weapons Inspections From 2002-2003 | Arms Control Association

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Although Iraq was cooperative on what inspectors called “process”—allowing inspectors access to suspected weapons sites, for example—it was only marginally cooperative in answering the questions surrounding its weapons programs. Unable to resolve its differences with Security Council members who favored strengthening and continuing weapons inspections, the United States abandoned the inspections process and initiated the invasion of Iraq on March 19.
The United States acted unilaterally.
 
Old 04-07-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Why don't we blame every President since Ike for the growth of the military's influence on our lives and federal budget.
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