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Old 04-09-2013, 10:36 AM
 
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Yes, it is a few Old Exile politicians or the grown up children of Old Exiles still alive continuing to fight Castro from 90 miles away, living in wealth and privilege in this country, who want us to continue fighting Castro for them.

It seems that now in "effectively" the travel restrictions have been lifted. And Castro is on his last leg, having outlived most of his enemies who hated him so much but chose to "fight" him from here. I think many people who have planned celebration parties in Miami for Castro's death are maybe not going to live to attend any such celebration.
He's already outlived a bunch of his antagonists...most in fact.

Look, I wanna see a free Cuba in my lifetime too, but I resent being bossed around by a bunch of exiled south Floridians that ran and turned tail instead of fighting a ragtag band of guerrillas. They wouldn't fight for their own freedom, but they think they can come here and boss us around? And use our State Dept as a proxy to do it? Why weren't they so feisty when it mattered?

They can bite me.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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I'm pretty sure finding out about any American just up and going to Cuba is going to give rise to some questions. I haven't read through the thread but it's a well-known fact that travel between the two countries is not easily accessible to anyone other than gov't officials (I imagine) or people with dual citizenship (such as my father). I would like to visit one day but not anytime soon b/c it's really not safe but also b/c it's such a huge hassle to get permission, if it's even granted at all.

Either way, Beyonce and Jay-Z do some odd things, and they are known to pal around with Obama, so it's really no wonder Republicans are questioning it. It has nothing to do with freedom, as you claim.
Cuba is safe - for tourists anyway - and it is quite easy to get permission to go there, even if you're American.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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Cuba is safe - for tourists anyway - and it is quite easy to get permission to go there, even if you're American.

There are many ways you can go without going through a third country. You might have to deal with bureaucracy, but it's feasible.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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I would like to visit one day but not anytime soon b/c it's really not safe
What makes you think it's not safe? Canadians inundate that small island in droves...it's perfectly safe. Inexpensive, too.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Look, I wanna see a free Cuba in my lifetime too, but I resent being bossed around by a bunch of exiled south Floridians that ran and turned tail instead of fighting a ragtag band of guerrillas. They wouldn't fight for their own freedom, but they think they can come here and boss us around? And use our State Dept as a proxy to do it? Why weren't they so feisty when it mattered?

They can bite me.
Remind me again why the Mayflower came to the US.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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What makes you think it's not safe? Canadians inundate that small island in droves...it's perfectly safe. Inexpensive, too.

I've spoke to a Canadian who lived in Cuba for over a year.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Most of my single female friends go to Cuba alone when they have a week or so off. Hit the beach in the middle of winter for next to nothing, and they feel very safe.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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Most of my single female friends go to Cuba alone when they have a week or so off. Hit the beach in the middle of winter for next to nothing, and they feel very safe.

Speaking of Cuba having an oppressive government, did you hear about the Canadian students being charged for posting an Instagram photo of a police officer?
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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Remind me again why the Mayflower came to the US.
I'm fine with them being here...they've made a great contribution to this country.

But I don't want them telling me that I can't go to Cuba.

Moreover, this isn't exactly a Mayflower situation. Do you apply that analogy for Mexicans coming here for a better life?
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Speaking of Cuba having an oppressive government, did you hear about the Canadian students being charged for posting an Instagram photo of a police officer?
Oh you mean that ONE student being arrested for posting a graffiti picture of a police officer with a bullet in his head? What about it?
Don't like our oppressive regime? Don't visit.

Lemieux said a prosecutor signed off on the arrest and that there is more to the case that can’t be publicly discussed.
“It’s something that is taken seriously and there is no tolerance when something like this targets someone from the justice system,” Lemieux said. “In this case, it’s a police officer and it’s being taken very seriously.”

Jennifer Pawluck arrested for posting photo of anti-police graffiti to Instagram | Canada | News | National Post
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