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Old 04-09-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: FLG/PHX/MKE
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Heh. You were expecting something different?
LOL. Actually not--I opened the article expecting to find that very thing, and sure enough, front and center, there it was.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Then Paul should stick to delivering babies. Because he's a wack job as a rep.

Please defend his positions if possible.
Again
He's a wack job for correctly telling us, years ahead of the lemmings you follow, that an economic collapse will come when you meddle in the free market????
He's a wack job for telling us our foreign policy of force which was BACKED UP by the 9/11 commission report, the Dept of Defense Report, and the CIAs Bin Laden Unit Report??? They gave us the reasons why they attacked us.

Now instead of completely ignoring what has already been said, why don't you explain to everyone here on C & D why you think I need to defend the truth?

I'll be waiting.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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You follow talking points. Otherwise why else would you support failure like you do?
I've linked to Paul's words either in print or on video. The guy is certifiable. And no one here who says otherwise offers anything but attitude. And if you vote dem then you vote for failure.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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Again
He's a wack job for correctly telling us, years ahead of the lemmings you follow, that an economic collapse will come when you meddle in the free market????
He's a wack job for telling us our foreign policy of force which was BACKED UP by the 9/11 commission report, the Dept of Defense Report, and the CIAs Bin Laden Unit Report??? They gave us the reasons why they attacked us.

Now instead of completely ignoring what has already been said, why don't you explain to everyone here on C & D why you think I need to defend the truth?

I'll be waiting.
Where's the 'collapse' lefty?
And if you dislike 'meddling in the free market' then go back to Reaganomics and to hell with Obamanomics.
Screw the 911 Commission. They would not even acknowledge Clinton saying on tape why he let Obama go free instead of taking him from Sudan.
Look up Wahhabism and Sharia law in order to get insight as to why 'they don't like us'. They will kill anything that is not them because of who we are. You think that people are getting their heads cut off because of our politics? If so, and you or anyone else think that is justification, you have the problem. They kill us because we are everything they are not. Think if possible.
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I've linked to Paul's words either in print or on video. The guy is certifiable. And no one here who says otherwise offers anything but attitude. And if you vote dem then you vote for failure.
No you haven't. Because "you said so" is laughable as well as meaningless. Someone said he said this. The only certifiable ones are those who think because someone said so it's true.
Please whatever you do don't listen to the one who spoke the words and heaven forbid don't look at their actions. Hard to wrap your head around that isn't it. Ignore that, just like you ignored the facts that he was correct on the on the collapse and he was correct on the 9/11 attack.

here's a couple easy ones right off the bat.

lie number one -Supports Lower Taxes For Rich People And Higher Ones For Everyone Else
he supports raising the National Sales Tax for all of America. Ron Paul wants to raise that number to 23%.
Probably thinking of Gary Johnson. I'm using "thinking" loosely.
Follow Ron Paul much do we?

Get rid of the income tax and replace it with nothing. Better than what we have now would be a national sales tax which would be simpler, less loopholes. You probably think he wants people to pay tax on food and medicine too, lol.

Lie number two
The man is a strong believer of prayer in school.

Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. (Nov 2001)

No person shall be required by the United States or by any State to participate in prayer . Neither the United States nor any State shall compose the words of any prayer to be said in public schools.

Neither the United States nor any State shall establish any official religion, but the people's right to pray and to recognize their religious beliefs, heritage, or traditions on public property, including schools, shall not be infringed. Neither the United States nor any State shall require any person to join in prayer or other religious activity, prescribe school prayers, discriminate against religion, or deny equal access to a benefit on account of religion.

truth is treason
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Where's the 'collapse' lefty?
Where's the collapse? What planet have you been on the last 5 years?

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And if you dislike 'meddling in the free market' then go back to Reaganomics and to hell with Obamanomics.
Nope Meddling is meddling. I'm against "we can do it, but you cannot". That's inconsistent policy, you however are for that. ***see below

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Screw the 911 Commission. They would not even acknowledge Clinton saying on tape why he let Obama go free instead of taking him from Sudan.
The 9/11 Commission report as well as the others did the smart thing. They didn't ask what others THOUGHT the reasons were. They asked the ones who lived there.

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Look up Wahhabism and Sharia law in order to get insight as to why 'they don't like us'. They will kill anything that is not them because of who we are. You think that people are getting their heads cut off because of our politics? If so, and you or anyone else think that is justification, you have the problem. They kill us because we are everything they are not. Think if possible.
***Just as we went after Japan, which attacked a country with it's democratically elected leaders meaning America. Iranian people did the same when our government helped overthrow Iran, a country with democratically elected leaders, in 1953.
We can do it but you can't mentality.

Over 2 million children dead in Iraq because of sanctions. Who in their right mind would think no one is going to come after those responsible for killing a loved one?
If your kid is meaning less to you, that would explain a lot.
We occupy the countries, desecrate their holy lands, and kill there people. It's not our freedoms they hate, its America taking away the people freedoms in the Middle East is why they hate.

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Old 04-09-2013, 06:51 PM
 
Location: California
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Hmmm. So if this is to be believed it's less about Ron Paul and more Gary North. Almost sounds like RP is licensing his name and letting developers use it for their own purpose.


http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com...arian-taliban/
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:12 PM
 
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Ron Paul: Homeschooling will play 'revolutionary' role to restore limited government - YouTube


Ron Paul in Davenport, Iowa -- Gives Opinion on Homeschooling - YouTube
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:39 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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I've linked to Paul's words either in print or on video. The guy is certifiable. And no one here who says otherwise offers anything but attitude. And if you vote dem then you vote for failure.

Ron Paul Incredible Video Twice Removed YouTube - YouTube
yeah being Right on a lot of current issues and calling attention to them years before they happened and got mt5o be nuts or have guts to speak the not so easy to hear truth but hey he served in Vietnam when called to serve and he says some things that are just amazing but Democrats and Republicans are one and the same and both have parties have sold us out and he was pretty much the only one won people over with no media but his debates on the economy and the foreign affairs and his knowledge of the constitution.

Ron Paul says some things that maybe he would of kept his promise if he did win but maybe not but we will never know so . Ron Paul is 100 percent correct but he has no chance of becoming president because he's to honest all the he men shown in the video before him were assassinated for having the guts to speak the truth and we lost a lot of our freedoms that we the country was founded upon but keeping the country politically divided and not taking on some serious issues that we face now and listen people actually cheer him since he speaks the truth during the primary debates.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:52 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Lie number two
The man is a strong believer of prayer in school.
Voted NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. (Nov 2001)

The social conservativism emanating from Ron Paul is a sign of the deleterious consequences of the failed attempts at conservative/libertarian fusionism. While I sympathize with Paul’s opposition to the war and some of his other positions, his absurd claim that “The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers” prevents me from considering him as a candidate, or believing his rhetoric of being a strict defender of the Constitution. Paul has supported keeping “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, has co-sponsored the school prayer amendment, and supported keeping the Ten Commandments on a courthouse lawn. As with the other Republicans, Paul shows that he will cite the founding fathers and the Constitution when convenient, and ignore their principles when not. Barack Obama, a former professor of Constitutional law, shows a better understanding of this fundamental liberty than the candidate who is considered to be the most libertarian.

Barack Obama vs. Ron Paul on Separation of Church and State Liberal Values
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