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Old 04-11-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Harrier doesn't see color.
Harrier sees Dobie Gray integrating the American league though.

 
Old 04-11-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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But Willie Mays and Hank Aaron might not have started their career in MLB when they did if JR hadn't been the first black man to play.

Do you fail to recognize the significance?
I said the same thing. Jackie Robinson paved the way for players like Mays, Aaron, Reggie Jackson, and Ken Griffey Jr.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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As a baseball purist I believe that on field performance should be the only criteria for ones admission into the Hall of Fame. Can someone in good faith please tell me how Jackie Robinsons play warrants a position in the Hall of Fame? As a diehard Yankees fan aLLOW ME TO THROW SOME STATS YOUR WAY


Don Mattingly hits: 2152
Jackie Robinson hits: 1518

Don Mattingly homeruns: 222
Jackie Robinson homeruns: 139

Don Mattingly fielding percentage: 996
Jackie Robinson fielding percentage: 983

Don Mattingly gold gloves: 9
Jackie Robonsin gold gloves: 0

Don Mattingly rbi: 1099
Jackie Robonsin rbi: 734

Don Mattingly silver slugger awards: 3
Jackie Robinson silver slugger awards: 0

I can go on and on even further with more stats if you want!
How is it fair that Jackie Robinson is in the hall of fame and not Don Mattingly if Don Mattingly is better in every category and overall better? I think so. Jackie Robinson was above average but not Hall worthy. Racism got Jackie Robinson into the Hall of Fame
 
Old 04-11-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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Harrier sees Dobie Gray integrating the American league though.
Lol...amazing. I almost choked when I read that.

Dobie Gray...SMH. What a dope.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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As a baseball purist I believe that on field performance should be the only criteria for ones admission into the Hall of Fame. Can someone in good faith please tell me how Jackie Robinsons play warrants a position in the Hall of Fame?
Take Kennesaw Landis out of the HOF first, then we can have that discussion.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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As a baseball purist I believe that on field performance should be the only criteria for ones admission into the Hall of Fame. Can someone in good faith please tell me how Jackie Robinsons play warrants a position in the Hall of Fame?
Criteria for being elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame:

BBWAA | Baseball Hall of Fame

Robinson's Hall of Fame bio:

""Jackie Robinson burst onto the scene in 1947, breaking baseball's color barrier and bringing the Negro leagues' electrifying style of play to the Majors. He quickly became baseball's top drawing card and a symbol of hope to millions of Americans. With Robinson as the catalyst, the Dodgers won six pennants in his 10 seasons. He dominated games on the basepaths, stealing home 19 times while riling opposing pitchers with his daring baserunning style. Robinson was named National League MVP in 1949, leading the loop in hitting (.342) and steals (37), while knocking in 124 runs."

Robinson, Jackie | Baseball Hall of Fame
 
Old 04-11-2013, 03:14 PM
 
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[quote=desertdetroiter;29082841]Take Kennesaw Landis out of the HOF first, then we can have that discussion.[/quote



Dodge the question why dont you. So predicatable. Just be intellectually honest and say that you think the HOf IS ABOUT MORE THAN ON FIELD PERFORMANCE. That is all
 
Old 04-11-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Take Kennesaw Landis out of the HOF first, then we can have that discussion.[/quote



Dodge the question why dont you. So predicatable. Just be intellectually honest and say that you think the HOf IS ABOUT MORE THAN ON FIELD PERFORMANCE. That is all
Obviously it is......or Pete Rose would be there.
 
Old 04-11-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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Take Kennesaw Landis out of the HOF first, then we can have that discussion.[/quote



Dodge the question why dont you. So predicatable. Just be intellectually honest and say that you think the HOf IS ABOUT MORE THAN ON FIELD PERFORMANCE. That is all
I can go further than that since you didn't like my last comment:

Take every player in the HOF that played during segregation out of the HOF because they didn't play against the best competition and they damn well knew it.

After that, we can talk about Jackie's merits. But not before then.

If you wanna be an ass, then I can play that game too.
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