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Old 04-12-2013, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Indeed!
It's called showing a passion for sensible, well thought out legislation, and not just passing laws, based upon emotions and a desire that "somebody should do something."
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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It's called showing a passion for sensible, well thought out legislation, and not just passing laws, based upon emotions and a desire that "somebody should do something."
Emotions are emotions so please don't pin all emotions on liberals. There are conservatives out there who support more extensive background checks.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Extortion by any means is still extortion.
Trading away one's birthright is foolish.
Disarmament, even partial, is only a benefit to the predator, not the prey.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:31 PM
 
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What is shameful is your disregard for the parents of kids who have been killed.
So let me get this straight. While they are being used for an agenda and have clearly stepped into the political arena pushing for something others and I are against, we are just supposed to shut up? Sorry, it doesn't work that way

Many people are killed or injured each year. It does not make the victims families more important or knowledgeable on a subject.

Shame on you for ignoring how these people are being used. Ignoring how no doubt, Democrats had internal discussions on how to use them to push an agenda.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Emotions are emotions so please don't pin all emotions on liberals. There are conservatives out there who support more extensive background checks.
Their political party does not matter to me, I'm not, and have never been a Republican. Simply being a Republican does not make them any smarter or conservative, it just means they joined a political party.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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ON CRITICISM
".... The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."
Theodore Roosevelt; Kansas City Star (7 May 1918).
Likewise, to be chivvied into following a foolish course that erodes rights is both base and servile. It is more important to TELL THE TRUTH.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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What is shameful is your disregard for the parents of kids who have been killed.
The parents are being used exactly the way you are using them, they are political props to push and agenda, a shield to stifle debate, and a club to beat your political opponents with.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:48 PM
 
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The parents are being used exactly the way you are using them, they are political props to push and agenda, a shield to stifle debate, and a club to beat your political opponents with.
What would you rather---that the parents of the murdered children not be allowed to speak out?
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:20 PM
 
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The parents are being used exactly the way you are using them, they are political props to push and agenda, a shield to stifle debate, and a club to beat your political opponents with.
If I were participating a word association game and "parents of murdered children" were the words that were being offered, the last thing that I would think of is "props". First thing that would come to mind is horrible grief, great loss, life changing and maybe avoidable. Very likely, there is a need for them to feel that their children did not die in vain. The possible prevention of another child being killed the way that their children were killed would give these grief stricken parents a small measure of solace in knowing that something good can come out of something horrific. No, definitely not props.
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Emotions are emotions so please don't pin all emotions on liberals. There are conservatives out there who support more extensive background checks.
Where did I "pin all emotions on liberals," or for that matter, where did I even reference "emotions" at all? All i was pointing out, is that some people are passionate about the things they care about, and that includes liberals and conservatives, et al.
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