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There is another reason for changing a name, Names like Phouc, Dong, Wang or Porn may not raise a ironic smile in Vietnam, China or Thailand but they certainly do in the USA.
Uh; it's IGNORANT for a family wanting to keep their kids in the ghetto, barrio, tenement and so on. Having a "local" name does help. In the US it'd be Robert, John, Mary, Susan and so on. In LatAm it'd be Jose, Maria, Juan, Carmen and so on. Germany it'd be Hans, Maria, Johann, Gisela and so on. Israel has its share of Hebrew names that are Ok there. Sheesh!
I see your point but I don't stand by it. I am of Scandinavian decent. American born to American parents. I am not going to chop my balls off or my honor for the sake of fitting in with Anglos. Being Anglo doesn't mean you are more American. I am proud of being Germanic , most white Americans are not even Anglo but GERMANIC.
If I had a son and named him Olaf or Tor (stereotypical Nordic names) then that's what his named will be. DOESN'T make him less American.
For those who want to knit pick...I know Anglos are Germanic but I am talking about the term used for the Celtic/Irish being of people that the OP is probably referring to.
My name is Victor. So, am I Hispanic, Germanic, Italian, French? What ghetto were my parents trying to keep me in?
Names have nothing to do with a person's success in life and I see a lot of statements in this thread that have zero knowledge or thought behind them. Oh, and my two daughters are named after Spanish royals. Gee, I hope they don't go on welfare because of it.
Interesting posts about language. I am of Chinese descent and speak Chinese fluently though English is my first language. I rarely speak Chinese in public except with my immediate family since that is my parents first language. Even when speaking to other Chinese Americans I don't know I speak EnglishI only speak Chinese with a stranger when they are not able to converse in English. Most Asian Americans who are born in the US speak English only with one another too. I've also noticed that Chinese Americans and Korean Americans tend to give their kids American first names, while Mexicans, Muslims, and Indians can be here many generations and still have foreign first names. I think when your kid is born in America and you still choose to name him Antonio, Mohammed, Shaheed, Jalil, or Barack it shows a lack of assimilation.
I grabbed this from "Tom Lennox 70" out of another thread.
I've seen that too: many Japanese, Chinese and Korean parents DO give their US born kids "anglo" names.
I named my kids perfectly fine English/American/Anglo or whatever names but some kids in school still call them Carlos, Miguel, Jose. If I had to do it again I'd probably name them Japanese names just to mess with peoples minds
Sometimes I read these posts and think I must live on a different planet. Yes, I've been to parts, namely inner cities in Los Angeles County where Spanish is just as likely to be spoken as English. However, once you get to the burbs it's not uncommon to encounter a Lance, Zach, Jeremy, etc...children of adults whose own parents were born in Mexico.
I see your point but I don't stand by it. I am of Scandinavian decent. American born to American parents. I am not going to chop my balls off or my honor for the sake of fitting in with Anglos. Being Anglo doesn't mean you are more American. I am proud of being Germanic , most white Americans are not even Anglo but GERMANIC.
If I had a son and named him Olaf or Tor (stereotypical Nordic names) then that's what his named will be. DOESN'T make him less American.
For those who want to knit pick...I know Anglos are Germanic but I am talking about the term used for the Celtic/Irish being of people that the OP is probably referring to.
Uh; here in Arizona, ANY non Hispanic "white" person IS an "anglo", even people like me who are of Irish family.
I see your point but I don't stand by it. I am of Scandinavian decent. American born to American parents. I am not going to chop my balls off or my honor for the sake of fitting in with Anglos. Being Anglo doesn't mean you are more American. I am proud of being Germanic , most white Americans are not even Anglo but GERMANIC.
If I had a son and named him Olaf or Tor (stereotypical Nordic names) then that's what his named will be. DOESN'T make him less American.
For those who want to knit pick...I know Anglos are Germanic but I am talking about the term used for the Celtic/Irish being of people that the OP is probably referring to.
What pisses me off is what about us white Spanish Americans? We can't give our kids Spanish names, because it sounds too "Mexican"? Ridiculous.
What pisses me off is what about us white Spanish Americans? We can't give our kids Spanish names, because it sounds too "Mexican"? Ridiculous.
Well -- what image do you have when you see someone named Jose Maria Hernandez Martinez? Or Maria de Guadalupe Lopez Hernandez? It doesn't matter if it's someone of Spanish or Irish ancestry, people are going to think it's someone from Mexico.
Kind of like trying to claim a name like Michael or Mary is "anglo" as though only someone from England ever used that kind of name. Like it or not -- the USA's culture is mostly British influenced, just like Canada's, just like Barbados' -- ironically the three nations in the western hemisphere with the highest standards of living. If people are so opposed to living in a former British colony, they have plenty of other choices. Coming here from some other country and getting in a lather that there are still those British influences is rather silly.
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. Yes, I've been to parts, namely inner cities in Los Angeles County where Spanish is just as likely to be spoken as English. However, once you get to the burbs it's not uncommon to encounter a Lance, Zach, Jeremy, etc...children of adults whose own parents were born in Mexico.
