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I'm thinking that all of the information being given to us in little bits and pieces now is information which was gained PRIOR to Monday a.m. when the Federal Public Defenders Office was appointed as his attorney. I've read that the defendant stopped talking after he was read his rights and an attorney was appointed.
So that makes me wonder why authorities are giving out this info in little bits and pieces over a number of days. It makes it sound as if they are continuing to question the defendant and I don't think they are. I am NOT saying that I think there is any conspiracy crap going on. What I'm seeing now seems more typical of any high profile criminal case. It is the "prosecutors" generally who "leak" information in these cases; rarely do you see much from the defense attorneys because they save their points and strategy for the court room. Prosecutors tend to try to influence public opinion usually.
Apparently, the Fed. P.D's office seems to have the additional problem now of furloughs of attorneys (which cuts down on the time they have to prepare for this and other cases) which will likely delay the case. There's link to that information in my most recent post.
I'm sure you are correct. I also heard that he stopped talking at that point.
Liberals defend our justice system and the rights we all have as citizens. It's not just about individuals charged. It's about preserving our rights, yes, mine and yours.
There is such a thing as over compensating though....
And please, Liberals don't have the market cornered on preserving our rights.
Defense lawyers
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LAWYERS???
It says, "If you can not afford an attorney, ONE will be appointed for you..
It's overkill to give this bomber a public dream team, and an insult to the
American taxpayer, not to mention the folks of Boston.
Who is the dream team?
These Federal P.D. attorneys are PAID THE SAME regardless of who they represent. They are employees of the federal government and they are paid salaries. That means NO OVER TIME. They work as long as it take to get the job done, unless they are furloughed for specific days where they are not allowed to work.
You're wrong. It would be an insult to the "American taxpayer" to not give this defendant the same quality of defense as we would give to every other defendant. Who do you think defended the Unabomber?
It you people could get your $$$$-consumed brains off MONEY for just a short time, you might be able to see that these protections which are out there are for ALL OF US, all citizens, and with a lot of work you may be able to figure out why.
As for the words "defense lawyers" do really take everything so literally in terms of ONE lawyer being appointed? Geeeezzz. BIG criminal cases have "legal teams." That is what is required to work a BIG, complicated, high profile case. The legal teams include attorneys (usually 2) and investigators, support staff, etc. The bottom line is ATTORNEYS are required by the oaths when they become members of State Bar Associations to "zealously represent" their clients. If they don't do that, they can get kicked out of the bar and not be allowed to practice at all. Also, THE FEDERAL PUBLIC DEFENDER was appointed to this case; that Federal Public Defender had already assigned attorneys to that case from his/her office. It's done.
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There is such a thing as over compensating though....
And please, Liberals don't have the market cornered on preserving our rights.
No, in regard to our rights, there is no such thing as "over compensating."
In case you haven't noticed, it does seem to be the strong right wing contingent who is advocating not giving him equal representation, not reading him Miranda, and categorizing him as an enemy combatant. I would say that the far right wingers are ready to take away "our rights" in a heartbeat when they become fearful.
Oh, come on! I personally know people who work for both state public defenders offices and fed p.d. offices. They are NOT "bought" to do the bidding of anyone. YOu do realize that these people all have to be members of state bar associations in order to practice law, don't you? There are lots of very good attorneys working for the Fed. P.D. Offices throughout this country. Please. This is just carrying that conspiracy idea tooooo far. I don't trust "Government" completely by any means, so I can be as suspicious of "government" actions as anyone, but this is just so far over the top that it gives support to those who oppose you.
AND what are you talking about when you say "clean hands"?????
Just what it says, you come to the negotiating table with clean hands. Look it up.
Sure, there are good cops too, but most people have families, want to remain employed, and don't wanna tick their bosses off, so they'll do what their told. Screw the moral highground.
No, in regard to our rights, there is no such thing as "over compensating."
In case you haven't noticed, it does seem to be the strong right wing contingent who is advocating not giving him equal representation, not reading him Miranda, and categorizing him as an enemy combatant. I would say that the far right wingers are ready to take away "our rights" in a heartbeat when they become fearful.
Screw part affiliation, try thinking like an independent. Both parties suck.
You're wrong. It would be an insult to the "American taxpayer" to not give this defendant the same quality of defense as we would give to every other defendant. Who do you think defended the Unabomber?
It you people could get your $$$$-consumed brains off MONEY for just a short time,
The lawyer appointed is apparently well renowned. Don't you read your own links.
And reminder, it is our money that pays those salaries.
How many average citizens get "a team of lawyers".
I'm as disgusted by the overkill of the price tag for the unabomber;
50M over 8 years. Obscene when you think about it.
There has to be an end to the insanity of a financial bottomless pit for the defense of
POS.
Just what it says, you come to the negotiating table with clean hands. Look it up.
Sure, there are good cops too, but most people have families, want to remain employed, and don't wanna tick their bosses off, so they'll do what their told. Screw the moral highground.
That's simply not true with most defense attorneys. The types of people who pursue careers in criminal defense tend to be folks who will definitely question "their bosses" ..........and there are many ways to do that. For example, filing a Bar complaint against "their boss" if that boss suggests that they do ANYTHING other than zealously represent their clients. Criminal defense attorneys are frequently big risk-takers and do not fear "losing their jobs"........
How much experience have you had working with public defender lawyers in order to have seen anything to support your belief that these people who take low-paying jobs in order to represent the "least" in our socety would then throw those people under the bus simply for a "very small" paycheck?
LAWYERS???
It says, "If you can not afford an attorney, ONE will be appointed for you..
It's overkill to give this bomber a public dream team, and an insult to the
American taxpayer, not to mention the folks of Boston.
One lawyer won't be enough for an adequate defense for this young man - and if he doesn't have an adequate defense then the legitamacy of any conviction will come into question.
Is that what you want?
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There are lots of very good attorneys working for the Fed. P.D. Offices throughout this country. Please. This is just carrying that conspiracy idea tooooo far. I don't trust "Government" completely by any means, so I can be as suspicious of "government" actions as anyone, but this is just so far over the top that it gives support to those who oppose you.