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Old 04-18-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: WY
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Most of us had to go to the library when we couldn't afford computers/internet.

If they must provide them for free, I can see having a bank of computers set up in a dedicated space in low income housing developments, that are supervised during usage hours. I can't see giving people free computers and internet service.

 
Old 04-18-2013, 08:28 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Nothing is free, even after where I work raises rates to try and cover the losses we still write of a ton of $ on this. The Govt doesn't reimburse the full %. ATT etc will fight this tooth and nail.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Nothing is free, even after where I work raises rates to try and cover the losses we still write of a ton of $ on this. The Govt doesn't reimburse the full %. ATT etc will fight this tooth and nail.
It's a done deal.

There was no vote. The FCC runs this and they made the switch.
The USC will pay for it and the FCC will raise the rates for the "donations" the telecoms submit.
The telecoms are not mandated by the government to recoup via their customers but they do.

It's a nice scheme, all worded up correctly.

If you want phone service you'll pay.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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Not sure why this is even being done. The money spent on this and similar programs should be given to the wealthy "job creators" for better use
 
Old 04-18-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Not sure why this is even being done. The money spent on this and similar programs should be given to the wealthy "job creators" for better use :rollseyes:
LOL..it is. Verizon, AT&T, Sprint..they all get their cut and reimbursed via USC that we pay to them.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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IDK- I dislike people that game and abuse the system as much as anyone. But I tend to notice here Down Under, more of a sense of community, "we're all in this together" type spirit. Aussies look out for one another, especially those who are down on their luck. In the $tate$ it's more "I've got mine" A good example of this was the devastating Bundaberg floods back in January. So many lost everything, yet the whole country pitched in to help these folks put their lives back together, best they can. I can imagine if that happened in America, people would mock them and say"that's what they get for living in that area, too bad for them" Sad really.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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IDK- I dislike people that game and abuse the system as much as anyone. But I tend to notice here Down Under, more of a sense of community, "we're all in this together" type spirit. Aussies look out for one another, especially those who are down on their luck. In the $tate$ it's more "I've got mine" A good example of this was the devastating Bundaberg floods back in January. So many lost everything, yet the whole country pitched in to help these folks put their lives back together, best they can. I can imagine if that happened in America, people would mock them and say"that's what they get for living in that area, too bad for them" Sad really.
The US is a bit different. Replace that "we" with "me".

The lifeline program just dropped 41% of their subscribers for not qualifying.
They were not poor and/or had multiple plans per household.

That should tell you about America's sense of "community" and "fair share" mentality.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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What's next free Mercedes.
I believe the intent is to equalize the playing field to give the poor access to information -- like job applications that are increasingly only available online.

Personally, I think the internet should be a public service, anyway.

I suppose you would prefer to increase the barriers to poor and keep them poor, right? That would really be a help to our situation, right?

Only when we as a people decide to mobilize our human productivity will this again become a great nation. Those that choose to place barriers to such mobilization are merely giving lip service to their love of their country.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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If we were a truly advanced country, everyone would have free Wi-Fi anyways.

The saddest part of all is that our country is not organized and/or advanced enough to do this.
^
THIS

At very least broadband access in rural areas. The sad fact is that several Republican led states have passed laws prohibiting local governments from creating their own broadband/wi-fi networks. That's right, some states have made it priority to protect private monopolies who offer bad service, if they offer any service at all. Don't have internet service in your area? Too bad. Don't like that verizon has capped your speeds at 15Mbs? Too bad, we value their lobbying dollars more than your access to information and life in the 21st century.
It's absolutely insane.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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IDK- I dislike people that game and abuse the system as much as anyone. But I tend to notice here Down Under, more of a sense of community, "we're all in this together" type spirit. Aussies look out for one another, especially those who are down on their luck. In the $tate$ it's more "I've got mine" A good example of this was the devastating Bundaberg floods back in January. So many lost everything, yet the whole country pitched in to help these folks put their lives back together, best they can. I can imagine if that happened in America, people would mock them and say"that's what they get for living in that area, too bad for them" Sad really.
You are totally wrong. In cases of devastation the country does pitch in but once helped do you expect to continue supporting those people the rest of their lives, then support the offspring too?

We have safety nets for people who are having a hard time but what you fail to realize is welfare lifers have no interest in supporting themselves and will continue to live off the labors of other hard working Americans. What is worse is they keep having more babies then teach those babies how to game the system now we have generational welfare that Americans are forced to support.

Sad? yes it is sad when we have a large group of people who think nothing of taking from other people as a lifelong lifestyle. That is abuse.

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