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Old 04-18-2013, 12:59 PM
 
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But white people should not use their plight, with ours as black people. It makes seem even as black people, we cannot even get the rights of our struggle without white people taking it for their own gain.I really wish someone who is black, and feel the same way I do would answer this discussion.
I'm sorry, but civil rights don't just belong to blacks, or women, or Native Americans, or gays, or any other group.

EVERY American citizen should fight for equal civil rights.

 
Old 04-18-2013, 01:00 PM
 
Location: La Jolla, CA
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The objectors to same sex marriage are responsible for creating the comparison, by employing the identical, illogical strategies to deny what was being requested.

Is it possible that those who take offense to the comparison, are still offended by the fact that the same strategies failed when employed against the civil rights movement?
 
Old 04-18-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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But white people should not use their plight, with ours as black people. It makes seem even as black people, we cannot even get the rights of our struggle without white people taking it for their own gain.I really wish someone who is black, and feel the same way I do would answer this discussion.
Aren't you perpetuating the prejudice? Aren't we all humans? Like the poster above said, you should be proud that the fundementals of the black fight are now being used by the gays. Blacks set the path.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Memphis
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I'm sorry, but civil rights don't just belong to blacks, or women, or Native Americans, or gays, or any other group.

EVERY American citizen should fight for equal civil rights.

I was not even talking about Civil Rights as a whole,I was talking white gays always comparing themselves with the struggles of black people. Why can't they latch onto another race of people? Such as N.A. Hispanics?The Jews?
 
Old 04-18-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but civil rights don't just belong to blacks, or women, or Native Americans, or gays, or any other group.

EVERY American citizen should fight for equal civil rights.
Indeed.

I'm a straight white man.

But it's still my business when a gay person is discriminated against, when a non-white is discriminated against, when a woman is discrimination.

And one reason I have so much admiration for the aforementioned John Lewis is that he supports Civil Rights. Period. Not Civil Rights that happen to benefit him, but Civil Rights. And he's not someone who peddles any "My suffering was worse than yours and my rights are real but yours aren't!" divisive nonsense.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Memphis
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Aren't you perpetuating the prejudice? Aren't we all humans? Like the poster above said, you should be proud that the fundementals of the black fight are now being used by the gays. Blacks set the path.
No I am not proud, because it makes it seem like the struggles of my ancestor should be forgotten, and null, and void.It almost seem like we are joke.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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No I am not proud, because it makes it seem like the struggles of my ancestor should be forgotten, and null, and void.It almost seem like we are joke.
....and how does it do that?
 
Old 04-18-2013, 01:10 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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white gays always comparing themselves with the struggles of black people. Why can't they latch onto another race of people?
What about black gays? Are they allowed to reference the struggles of black people?
 
Old 04-18-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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And one reason I have so much admiration for the aforementioned John Lewis is that he supports Civil Rights. Period. Not Civil Rights that happen to benefit him, but Civil Rights. And he's not someone who peddles any "My suffering was worse than yours and my rights are real but yours aren't!" divisive nonsense.
Excellent comment. As if civil rights was some sort of zero-sum game.
 
Old 04-18-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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I was not even talking about Civil Rights as a whole,I was talking white gays always comparing themselves with the struggles of black people. Why can't they latch onto another race of people? Such as N.A. Hispanics?The Jews?
I have never compared my struggles to that of black people. I have said that the arguments against civil rights for blacks (that failed) is the same argument being used today against gays.

You aren't the only group to have had struggles in this country.
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