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So what do you think the purpose of marriage is, in as far as why the people in our country decided to involve the government in it? Let's start there first.
Commitment between two people. The government is involved because of tax benefits but also legal benefits in the case of death etc. That's what I want for me and my GF. I want her to be protected if something happens to me.
I understand the argument that "traditional marriage" is meant for the raising of children. But give me a break, with the divorce rate, the unmarried mothers etc...it's a joke.
No.....that's not ALL it's about! But it is clearly set up for the continuing of the population of earth.
If every one was homosexual, where would that take mankind, as the decades procede?
Why do you make this argument?? I can have children, all my parts are working fine!
No.....that's not ALL it's about! But it is clearly set up for the continuing of the population of earth.
If every one was homosexual, where would that take mankind, as the decades procede?
My wife and I have 3 children.
Do you seriously think that everyone will turn homosexual is SSM is legalized?
Fundamental purpose...come on, now you're just making stuff up.
Link one state's law on marriage that gives a definition of "fundamental purpose and function".
That's it, isn't it? We forgot to add a legal definition to something that we thought was universally understood. BTW, any legal definition will probably be written in leagalese and no one will understand it.
Sort of like creating a Food Stamp program for the needy, without defining who we actually meant by "needy," and then fighting off lawsuits by people earning $1000,000 a year, who claim they are "needy," and should get their EBT card.
Why don't you step down off your high horse, and tell me what you think the purpose and function of marriage is, and maybe someone will claim you are " just making stuff up."
No.....that's not ALL it's about! But it is clearly set up for the continuing of the population of earth.
If every one was homosexual, where would that take mankind, as the decades procede?
Also, there was reproduction before marriage, there is still reproduction without marriage, and there will be reproduction even if all marriage was made illegal.
People can and do have children without a government certificate everyday.
Also, there was reproduction before marriage, there is still reproduction without marriage, and there will be reproduction even if all marriage was made illegal.
People can and do have children without a government certificate everyday.
That's it, isn't it? We forgot to add a legal definition to something that we thought was universally understood. BTW, any legal definition will probably be written in leagalese and no one will understand it.
Sort of like creating a Food Stamp program for the needy, without defining who we actually meant by "needy," and then fighting off lawsuits by people earning $1000,000 a year, who claim they are "needy," and should get their EBT card.
Why don't you step down off your high horse, and tell me what you think the purpose and function of marriage is, and maybe someone will claim you are " just making stuff up."
What do you think the purpose and function is?
I already said that it is a commitment between two people who love and care for each other that offers certain protections and benefits under the law. The couple can chose to raise children together, or chose not to have kids. I am not religious and in all honesty this is all I see marriage to be.
Commitment between two people. The government is involved because of tax benefits but also legal benefits in the case of death etc. That's what I want for me and my GF. I want her to be protected if something happens to me.
So two same-sex siblings can be married then, since it's about commitment? Why would government give tax benefits to people, just because they want to commit to each other? I'm just trying to get people to identify the reason for why government involves itself in marriage, and it's not because of personal commitments, feelings and such.
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Originally Posted by katestar
I understand the argument that "traditional marriage" is meant for the raising of children. But give me a break, with the divorce rate, the unmarried mothers etc...it's a joke.
The last part is you getting closer to why government involves itself in marriage. The higher the divorce rate and out of wedlock births, the more aggressive governments normally become in trying to encourage and promote marriage among their citizens.
Marriage is about procreation, and no, I'm not a religious person, so don't roll your eyes as if I'm going to bring the church into this.
The single most important thing to any country, no matter their politics or religion, is raising the next best generation of children, as is humanly possible. so getting as many sexually active couples to get married, stay married, and to raise their children together, is why government involves itself.
Government involved itself to add legally binding aspects to marriage, to help reenforce the institution of marriage, to try and prevent divorce, prevent single parents raising children alone.
Also, there was reproduction before marriage, there is still reproduction without marriage, and there will be reproduction even if all marriage was made illegal.
People can and do have children without a government certificate everyday.
...and what will we end up with? A country full of bastards, a breakdown in the extended family unit, and government social programs forced to pick up the slack to help single parents raise the next generation.
I suppose a total police state will be fine with this, treat their citizens like one big collective, with the state raising all the children, so the unwashed masses can concentrate on working for the state.
The single most important thing to any country, no matter their politics or religion, is raising the next best generation of children, as is humanly possible. so getting as many sexually active couples to get married, stay married, and to raise their children together, is why government involves itself.
Government involved itself to add legally binding aspects to marriage, to help reenforce the institution of marriage, to try and prevent divorce, prevent single parents raising children alone.
Well the government is doing an absolutely wonderful job then!
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