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View Poll Results: Hip Hop-Art or Poison?
Art 23 44.23%
Poison 29 55.77%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-21-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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Jazz will never die because its simply superior to all other musical genres.
Well it was until the Wynton Marsalises and Stanley Crouches took over and pretended like anything after 1969 didn't happen.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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The cut of the arts lead to the birth of hip-hop.


Something from Nothing - The Art of Rap Full Documentary LEGENDADO - YouTube

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Old 04-21-2013, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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In a normal functioning community hip hop would merely be an expression of teenage angst like rock and roll or heavy metal. The problem is that the core structure of the African American community has crumbled. A friend just shared this on Facebook.

http://exministries.wordpress.com/20...atherlessness/
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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Oh looky it's Mr. Ruckus. Friend to all the girls and boys.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:09 PM
 
Location: texas
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In a normal functioning community hip hop would merely be an expression of teenage angst like rock and roll or heavy metal. The problem is that the core structure of the African American community has crumbled. A friend just shared this on Facebook.

TBHH: Hip hop is the symptom of social ills because of fatherlessness |

Most people see a rose bush and see the blooms...some go straight for the thorns.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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You mean to tell me rockabilly is just a passing fad? I think not, good sirrah.
You mean to tell me girls dressing in the rockabilly style is just a passing fad?

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Old 04-21-2013, 07:23 PM
 
Location: NY
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IMO most hip-hop is just boring.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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You mean to tell me girls dressing in the rockabilly style is just a passing fad?

Ladies looking fine will never go out of style.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:28 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I'm an advocate Hip Hop listener and an artist, and I say both lol, mainly art though, but it sure can be poisonous. I can see how some of it can be misinterpreted or jus fairly interpreted as a negative msg. Having said that, even gangsta rap got some great points and u gotta read between the lines and not take erything literally. I feel like quality Hip Hop raises important issues and teaches life in a lot of ways, and u jus gotta take the good with the bad, but take the good out and apply it. Some say it encourages criminal behavior, and I can see that, but it still mainly depends on how one is brought up and what family structure surrounds him/her. Ghettos, drugs, thugs and guns came all before gangsta rap, not because of it, jus someth to think about, and actually when hip hop was created, it was all about leading youngsters away from the gang life, thus all the b-boy battles instead.
Rap and hip hop when they first came out, way back in the day... they actually said something, like you mentioned, were revolutionary and fresh......

I think, unfortunately now, the genre has become way way oversaturated and over commercialized, to the point of a lot of it being garbage.

I liken it to the end of the 80's hair metal band era... they were so many bands that just sucked, all trying to catch that wave of what was popular............. just became played out...


Same goes with most rap today.....I think rap is at that same point right now.....
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:33 PM
 
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I stick to the old reliable stuff that I always have...Miles,
If you are a true fan of Miles then you would know that the FIRST person to disagree with you would be Miles himself or did you completely miss Mile's final recording, Doo-Bop?

And what of Gil Scott-Heron the forefather and one of the most sampled artist in hip-hop.

Of course rap is an art form just as scat, spoken word (See Gil and the Last Poets) and blues were art forms before it, but just like any other art form there are posers, charlatans, and hucksters whose work isn't worth the time, but then there are examples of pure genius. Art is what you make of it or don't.
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