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Old 10-30-2007, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Please don't short-change the general public. I think the lot of us are pretty keen on our government....And I view it as "Thank God we have Dick Cheney BEFORE Pelosi would every have a shot at it" ~ And you know, boiseguy - roadblocks are usually set-up for our safety. Personally, I appreciate being forewarned of danger up ahead.....
well if the general public knew such things.. then why did you post your misleading post about it being the democrats fault that there hasn't been change? surely you knew that they did not have enough votes to really implement their changes, and surely you knew why? and you're right.. checks and balances are what its all about.. but in the context of your statement.. you did NOT reflect the importance of it.. thus..a slanted spin on reality...
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Flame wars! Take it off the board, and argue ideas not each other.
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:56 PM
 
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calling democrats socialist communists etc... is NOT factual.. so if you're going to stand on a soap box and claim to be all about the facts... then perhaps you should try it yourself.. so you are met with an actual conversation or debate... otherwise "you're a mess" is the only thing that can be factual...
Ahh see I knew you could communicate better then bla bla bla..

Obviously not all democrats are socialistic but name a program that the Democrats have proposed or name ONE thing the Democrats have tried to do since taking office that wasnt socialistic? Just ONE..
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Ahh see I knew you could communicate better then bla bla bla..

Obviously not all democrats are socialistic but name a program that the Democrats have proposed or name ONE thing the Democrats have tried to do since taking office that wasnt socialistic? Just ONE..
if they're not all socialistic commies... then why did you say it?

seems you like bla bla bla bla...
why say something that you know is not factual or true? you're not doing yourself any justice in your argument, you just look like a hypocrite...
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:02 PM
 
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if they're not all socialistic commies... then why did you say it?

seems you like bla bla bla bla...
why say something that you know is not factual or true? you're not doing yourself any justice in your argument, you just look like a hypocrite...
Name just ONE program the democrats have put out since "taking over" that was not socialistic? Just ONE..
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:10 PM
 
Location: OKC, OK
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well if the general public knew such things.. then why did you post your misleading post about it being the democrats fault that there hasn't been change? surely you knew that they did not have enough votes to really implement their changes, and surely you knew why? and you're right.. checks and balances are what its all about.. but in the context of your statement.. you did NOT reflect the importance of it.. thus..a slanted spin on reality...
Did Pelosi not know that she would be unable to bring about change? Did she feel that she would be able to turn Republicans? Why did she and others promise this 100 days things AFTER the elections? She clearly had to know her odds weren't good. This about her failures ~ it seems difficult for some liberals to admit to her failures but have little difficulty in pointing our a perceived conservative failure.
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Name just ONE program the democrats have put out since "taking over" that was not socialistic? Just ONE..
ALL programs are socialistic sweetheart... that is the whole point to them... it is government involvement in the dealings of the market/society.. so every program republicans have pushed have been "socialistic" as well.. whether you want to see it or not...
so.. again.. don't avoid my question.. if you want to point me out as someone that has nothing good to point out but blah bla blah...
Why did you say democrats are socialistic commies when you know it is not true or valid in a discussion?
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:16 PM
 
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ALL programs are socialistic sweetheart... that is the whole point to them... it is government involvement in the dealings of the market/society.. so every program republicans have pushed have been "socialistic" as well.. whether you want to see it or not...
so.. again.. don't avoid my question.. if you want to point me out as someone that has nothing good to point out but blah bla blah...
Why did you say democrats are socialistic commies when you know it is not true or valid in a discussion?
Actually there is a difference between making laws, and making programs. While I think we have enough of both, the Republicans want to regulate, Democrats want to hand out..
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Did Pelosi not know that she would be unable to bring about change? Did she feel that she would be able to turn Republicans? Why did she and others promise this 100 days things AFTER the elections? She clearly had to know her odds weren't good. This about her failures ~ it seems difficult for some liberals to admit to her failures but have little difficulty in pointing our a perceived conservative failure.
you're wrong... you didn't read my earlier posts... I actually stated that they were wrong in promising what they did given the situation they were going into.. I was merely shining some light on the situation to give insight into what OTHERS were saying about how they failed to make their promises happen.. but you know.. just because they're liberal does not mean that they are any different than any other politician that promises something and doesn't deliver... that is not a liberal/conservative issue... that is why I said I'm not defending anyone... their personal actions as people/politicians does not discredit their political views... thats like saying if a christian kills someone.. it makes all of christianity "guilty"
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Boise
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Actually there is a difference between making laws, and making programs. While I think we have enough of both, the Republicans want to regulate, Democrats want to hand out..
you specifically said programs...
and democrats enact laws that regulate businesses, workers rights, civil rights, etc..
so... I don't understand where you're coming from?
are you specifically talking about welfare? if so.. then say so.. but don't make generalized statements and then accuse the rest of us of bla bla blaing...
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