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Old 05-03-2013, 08:08 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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One also has to remember the word "cut" in DC language doesn't mean the same as in taxpayer language. The word "cut" in DC language means a reduction in the expected increase of funds not a reduction in the already allocated funds.
Taxpayer definition of the word "cut" means that if you had $20 dollars to work with last year you'll only get $15 or $10 this year.

You decide which definition is the correct one okay?

 
Old 05-03-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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CNN: Al-Qaeda operatives part of Benghazi attack Hot Air

It is looking any better for Hillary and Obama.
That can't be!!! Al Qaeda is on the run!!! Uh Oh. Maybe they are running towards us instead of away?
 
Old 05-03-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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That can't be!!! Al Qaeda is on the run!!! Uh Oh. Maybe they are running towards us instead of away?
That is why Obama and Hillary tried selling it as happening because of the video hoping the American people would be dumb enough to believe it.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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weak retort as I expected

the point is there were more attacks and resulting deaths on state department personnel overseas during Bush's first term than in Obama's first term, yet there were no shouts of treason and murder accusations towards Bush by democrats vs what we see now being done by republicans.

Diplomats and other State Department personnel serving overseas know that there is a risk that comes with their jobs, particularly when serving in volatile locations. unless there is evidence of gross malfeasance or other negligent wrong doing on the part of the administration , republicans should shut their mouths and not politicize an attack on an American outpost (especially when they voted to cut funding for State Department security )!
"the point is there were more attacks and resulting deaths on state department personnel overseas during Bush's first term than in Obama's first term, yet there were no shouts of treason and murder accusations towards Bush by democrats vs what we see now being done by republicans."

Apples and oranges.

It isn't the number of attacks on our Embassies.

Answer these questions.

Did those Other Embassies ask for and were denied additional security?

Were those other Embassies attacks blamed on an obscure video very few people saw?

Did the Administration send out a United Nations official, why didn't they use State dept. official?, since it is THEY who are in charge of Embassies, to explain what had happened.

There are MANY more questions that don't have any thing to do wit the other Embassy attacks.

"unless there is evidence of gross malfeasance or other negligent wrong doing on the part of the administration"

Duh, THAT is exactly what we ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT. HOW DO YOU FIND OUT WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION WON'T PROVIDE THE INFO?

"republicans should shut their mouths and not politicize an attack on an American outpost (especially when they voted to cut funding for State Department security" Really? When Obama, Reid, Pelosi, etc. "attack" repubs it isn't "political, it is for the "good of the country".

If I had read your whole post I wouldn't have responded. i thought you really didn't know but, I see now your are just another leftie hack.

P.S. The DEMS ALSO voted to cut the funding and had MORE votes.

The State Dept. has gone on record stating that funding was NOT an issue.

You should do some research before making statements that show you don't know what you are talking about.

"It is better to be thought of as a fool, then to open ones mouth and remove ALL doubt", someone once said.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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That can't be!!! Al Qaeda is on the run!!! Uh Oh. Maybe they are running towards us instead of away?
Did anyone ever really think killing Bin Laden would end it all? Not that killing him wasn't a good thing, but it doesn't stop them all. If the Obama administration ever implied such a thing, they are assuming we're fools.

We need the intelligence agencies to communicate better. We need the Obama administration to stop putting political correctness and selective tolerance over common sense. They are putting us in more danger.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Did anyone ever really think killing Bin Laden would end it all? Not that killing him wasn't a good thing, but it doesn't stop them all. If the Obama administration ever implied such a thing, they are assuming we're fools.

We need the intelligence agencies to communicate better. We need the Obama administration to stop putting political correctness and selective tolerance over common sense. They are putting us in more danger.
Well......................they believed it, so it had to be true to the believers. OBL had more in mind that just "attacking" America. He knew that the US would retaliate, and it did, and look where we are today. OBL can say "mission accomplished", unfortunately the US can't and will never be able to say it. The US has it's fingers in every Middle Eastern country, stirring things up. And for ever "terrorist"" they kill, 10 are born.
 
Old 05-03-2013, 09:52 AM
 
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Did anyone ever really think killing Bin Laden would end it all? Not that killing him wasn't a good thing, but it doesn't stop them all. If the Obama administration ever implied such a thing, they are assuming we're fools.

We need the intelligence agencies to communicate better. We need the Obama administration to stop putting political correctness and selective tolerance over common sense. They are putting us in more danger.
Yes, they are assuming the American people are fools.

During the foreign-policy focused presidential debate, Obama made the case that al Qaeda in Pakistan is decimated. http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/22/politi...check-al-qaeda

Obama Calls World ‘Safer’ After Pakistan Raid
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/wo...anted=all&_r=0


Obama administration would not admit that Fort Hood was a terrorist attack.

They tried selling that the Benghazi attacks were because of a video and are still stonewalling. The liberal media didn't report Benghazi until they were forced to report it and then called it political.

We didn't hear much about the Time Square attempted bombing. The liberal media right away said the Boston bombing had to be a right wing radical.

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Old 05-03-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Default DHS Whistleblower Censored from 60 minutes

This video featuring Department of Homeland Security whistleblower Julia Davis shows how out of control the DHS really is. Worse yet, it also makes us all aware of the power that our government now has to hide its wrongdoing. Back in the 1970's during the era of Watergate the people of the United States showed the courage to demand that Congress act to limit the powers of the intelligence agencies via The Church Committee. Sadly, it doesn't look this generation has the intestinal fortitude to demand similar action.

 
Old 05-03-2013, 05:07 PM
 
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"the point is there were more attacks and resulting deaths on state department personnel overseas during Bush's first term than in Obama's first term, yet there were no shouts of treason and murder accusations towards Bush by democrats vs what we see now being done by republicans."

Apples and oranges.

It isn't the number of attacks on our Embassies.

Answer these questions.

Did those Other Embassies ask for and were denied additional security?

Were those other Embassies attacks blamed on an obscure video very few people saw?

Did the Administration send out a United Nations official, why didn't they use State dept. official?, since it is THEY who are in charge of Embassies, to explain what had happened.

There are MANY more questions that don't have any thing to do wit the other Embassy attacks.

"unless there is evidence of gross malfeasance or other negligent wrong doing on the part of the administration"

Duh, THAT is exactly what we ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT. HOW DO YOU FIND OUT WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION WON'T PROVIDE THE INFO?

"republicans should shut their mouths and not politicize an attack on an American outpost (especially when they voted to cut funding for State Department security" Really? When Obama, Reid, Pelosi, etc. "attack" repubs it isn't "political, it is for the "good of the country".

If I had read your whole post I wouldn't have responded. i thought you really didn't know but, I see now your are just another leftie hack.

P.S. The DEMS ALSO voted to cut the funding and had MORE votes.

The State Dept. has gone on record stating that funding was NOT an issue.

You should do some research before making statements that show you don't know what you are talking about.

"It is better to be thought of as a fool, then to open ones mouth and remove ALL doubt", someone once said.
How childish and petty of you!

Its really ridiculous how you and other detractors of the president are trying so hard to make Benghazi some impeachable offense without any substantial evidence of such!

all you have is innuendo and specious hearsay.

Do you actually realize what you're alleging

You and katygirl may think the president is some radical, muslim manchurian candidate, but acute decisions like those involved with occurrences like Benghazi are made by commanders on the ground or in the field and have an entire chain of command! if there were forces that could help, they would have been sent!

Did you accuse Bush of treason every time a soldier was killed in Iraq under his watch?
 
Old 05-03-2013, 05:36 PM
 
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"the point is there were more attacks and resulting deaths on state department personnel overseas during Bush's first term than in Obama's first term, yet there were no shouts of treason and murder accusations towards Bush by democrats vs what we see now being done by republicans."

Apples and oranges.

It isn't the number of attacks on our Embassies.

Answer these questions.

Did those Other Embassies ask for and were denied additional security?

Were those other Embassies attacks blamed on an obscure video very few people saw?

Did the Administration send out a United Nations official, why didn't they use State dept. official?, since it is THEY who are in charge of Embassies, to explain what had happened.

There are MANY more questions that don't have any thing to do wit the other Embassy attacks.

"unless there is evidence of gross malfeasance or other negligent wrong doing on the part of the administration"

Duh, THAT is exactly what we ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT. HOW DO YOU FIND OUT WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION WON'T PROVIDE THE INFO?

"republicans should shut their mouths and not politicize an attack on an American outpost (especially when they voted to cut funding for State Department security" Really? When Obama, Reid, Pelosi, etc. "attack" repubs it isn't "political, it is for the "good of the country".

If I had read your whole post I wouldn't have responded. i thought you really didn't know but, I see now your are just another leftie hack.

P.S. The DEMS ALSO voted to cut the funding and had MORE votes.

The State Dept. has gone on record stating that funding was NOT an issue.

You should do some research before making statements that show you don't know what you are talking about.

"It is better to be thought of as a fool, then to open ones mouth and remove ALL doubt", someone once said.
Sorry - But it was obvious from day one that it was an organized attack. Demonstrators don't have vehicle mounted armament.

It is also clear that it was not aq State Dept operation but a black CIA one.

No one knew more about the security situation there then the Ambassador. He volunteered to be there. Are not you righties in favor of personal accountability?
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