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Old 05-14-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Misinformation or something else ??

Who doctored a White House email? - Salon.com
A fascinating turn.

A disgruntled employee isn't sounding so far-fetched right about now.

 
Old 05-14-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Don't you mean 8 hours (as reported many times) or are you talking in dog time?
I believe it has been reported that Smith died within the first 20 minutes from smoke inhalation. Stevens was with Smith. A Libyan doctor tried to revive Stevens later, but I haven't seen anything that indicated that Stevens had actually lived longer then Smith.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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From your link, I found this interesting:
They knew during the attacks and immediately following the attacks that machine guns, hand grenades, rpgs were being used. Wouldn't that have been a clue at that time that it was an attack?

This is why he looked like a damn fool trying to blame it on a mob protest, unlike the mob protest that took place in Cairo where the protesters had no weapons, that got out of hand. He was just softening the impact it would have on his re-election.
The CIA was saying it was both. From the unedited CIA talking points its clear that the CIA felt that the presence of the heavy weapons was an indication that it was more than just a protest. Susan Rice on the Sunday shows also mentioned the heavy weapons as an indication that it was more than just a protest.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Do you understand that it would not be the issue it is if our government could say that they took every measure, did something, to try to save the lives of those that died, rather than do nothing and explain it away with excuses? It may not have changed the outcome or saved one life, but knowing that our government at least TRIED is what makes the difference.
So sending a response team was do nothing? Doherty, who was killed, was part of a response team sent from Tripoli to Benghazi. So sending in planes to evacuate everyone was doing nothing?
 
Old 05-14-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The CIA was saying it was both. From the unedited CIA talking points its clear that the CIA felt that the presence of the heavy weapons was an indication that it was more than just a protest. Susan Rice on the Sunday shows also mentioned the heavy weapons as an indication that it was more than just a protest.
We can try to get Issa or Chaffetz to write a book? Here's a title,"The Case of the Missing "ism"....
 
Old 05-14-2013, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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So sending a response team was do nothing? Doherty, who was killed, was part of a response team sent from Tripoli to Benghazi. So sending in planes to evacuate everyone was doing nothing?
How many were in the US response team? 6? 10? 20? 40?

There were 6!!! And they were up against anywhere from 60 to 100 attackers.

And please don't include the Libyan unit 17th February Brigade. They ran in the opposite direction - that being AWAY from the attack, along with the Libyan guards at the facility.

Sending in evacuation planes AFTER the attacks helped them how???
 
Old 05-14-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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We can try to get Issa or Chaffetz to write a book? Here's a title,"The Case of the Missing "ism"....
I think someone should write a book with a title "The Case of the Missing US President", seeing as we haven't had one for the past 5 years.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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So sending a response team was do nothing? Doherty, who was killed, was part of a response team sent from Tripoli to Benghazi. So sending in planes to evacuate everyone was doing nothing?
If memory serves the two that came and died were A. Not in country for protection but as trainers. B. Violated orders not to go. I believe this was covered in the first set of hearings. C. Two people no matter how good are no match for what they faced. So no, we sent nobody, just people to their deaths.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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How many were in the US response team? 6? 10? 20? 40?

There were 6!!! And they were up against anywhere from 60 to 100 attackers.

And please don't include the Libyan unit 17th February Brigade. They ran in the opposite direction - that being AWAY from the attack, along with the Libyan guards at the facility.

Sending in evacuation planes AFTER the attacks helped them how???
What was available was sent. Those Americans who were sent got from the airport in Benghazi to the CIA facilities with the assistance of the Libyans. The evacuation of the Americans from Benghazi were also assisted by the Libyans. The size of the team that received the 'stand down' order was 4. There were not a lot of available resources.

The evacuation planes helped by getting the surviving American personnel out of harms way.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 03:19 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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How many were in the US response team? 6? 10? 20? 40?

There were 6!!! And they were up against anywhere from 60 to 100 attackers.

And please don't include the Libyan unit 17th February Brigade. They ran in the opposite direction - that being AWAY from the attack, along with the Libyan guards at the facility.

Sending in evacuation planes AFTER the attacks helped them how???
When Obama said we will investigate and go after them, that was 8 months ago... As Carney tried to pass it off he said "that was a long time ago"

Yea, they claim they did not have time to send in help but how in the H** did they know when the attack would end.

Then after the Libyan president declared it a terrorist attack and the Obama administration insisted it was because of a video, the Libyans would not let us in for over two weeks to investigate.
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