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Old 04-25-2013, 10:18 PM
 
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So typical... the same people who scream up and down that background checks won't stop every illegal gun sale are the first to scream up and down that we have to stop punish 1 million new immigrants per so that two of them don't act like total sociopaths.
It's one thing to live here it's another to do it on taxpayers backs. Those Boston bombers were living on welfare I believe if there are not enough jobs here then we need to stop allowing more poor people in, we have enough.

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Old 04-25-2013, 10:48 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mashed Potatoes View Post
100% correct.

I would go even further and stop ALL legal immigration for at least a decade. This country is rapidly approaching critical mass, and in some areas, it has already surpassed it.

The idea of taking 3rd world peoples (no this isnt a race issue) and throwing them into our high tech, modern, and civilized society is not a good idea under any circumstances.

It will result in nothing but problems.
This is a rather idiotic set of assumptions.

1. You assume that other countries are not "high tech," "modern" and "civilized." India by and large is a poor country, but damn, they have pockets of wealth and modernity and technology that would make you blush. Stop being so ignorant about places outside of the US.

2. You assume that those migrating are the poorest of the poor. They're usually not - the poorest of the poor can't afford to migrate. Indeed, a large portion of those who do migrate to the US are well off and/or well educated.
 
Old 04-25-2013, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/he...pagewanted=all

"Like other hospitals, particularly public hospitals, Grady has been left to provide costly treatments to nonpaying illegal residents who most likely could not have obtained such care in their home countries. American taxpayers and health care consumers have borne the expense. Over time, the mounting losses have compromised Grady’s charitable mission, forcing layoffs, increases in fees and the elimination of services. Years and years of providing this free care has led Grady to the breaking point,” said Matt Gove, one of the hospital’s senior vice presidents. “If we don’t make the gut-wrenching decisions now, there won’t be a Grady later. Then, everyone loses.”"

Illegal aliens threatenU.S. medical system

http://www.jpands.org/vol10no1/cosman.pdf

With Hospitals, It's Survival of the Fattest, Not the Fittest - Grant Results Reports - Program Results - Publications and research - RWJF

"Hospitals that closed depended less heavily on outpatient revenue but served greater shares of Medicaid patients."

"In their final report to RWJF, the researchers concluded: "Our findings suggest … that the pattern of hospital closings in US cities in recent decades may have damaged access to care generally, may have had an adverse and disproportionate impact on minority Americans specifically."...
And yet nothing you quoted sources your statement:

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...More hospitals have closed in the US in the last ten years due to illegal alien non-payments than for any other reason...
The newest article you responded with is 3-1/2 years old, and your main source in the response was composed in January of 2001 (which rules out coverage of the "last ten years" in itself). You quote Cosman (whom died in 2006) back at me? I need to clarify my source request for you: Show reputable support for the claim, not raving loons.

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...I repeat, she is not the thread topic, and any posts that focus on her are trolling.
Gotcha, keep it on-topic to how weird Ann Coulter is, not how weird Michelle Malkin is...
 
Old 04-26-2013, 05:28 AM
 
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And yet nothing you quoted sources your statement:
They all did, its just you have an agenda so you'll refuse any links posted, including the NYT. Posters like you are a dime a dozen, no matter what is posted you will claim "that's not true" and simply ignore it.

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The newest article you responded with is 3-1/2 years old, and your main source in the response was composed in January of 2001 (which rules out coverage of the "last ten years" in itself).
Math appears not to be your strong suit, since 3 1/2 years is within ten years. Second, even a cursory search of recently closed hospitals such as St. Vincent's in NYC show that they have closed due to non-payments/reduced medicaid payments for illegals. Given that illegals are swamping hospitals around the country for basic care - and often have no method of paying for it, the rational would grasp that they are damaging the health care system. Really not to hard to put the two together; lots of hospitals closing due to non-payment, and illegals have little/no method of paying for care

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150750,00.html

http://www.chron.com/news/article/St...ls-1596889.php

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/sep.../me-hospital24
 
Old 04-26-2013, 05:51 AM
 
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Coulter is just doing what she always does. Mimics the most base hatreds of the people on the far right. It's sad but the Republican Party has become the racist, xenophobic nativist party and THAT is the heart of their election losing problems. Sorry, but saying the same racist garbage with a smile on your face isn't going to win you any votes. The reason EVERY SINGLE non-white demographic mostly doesn't vote for Republicans (as well as several white religious minorities like Jews, atheists, and Muslims) is because the GOP has made it perfectly clear that they are not welcome.

They've chased off so many people they now can't win elections without trying to prevent some portion of the citizens from voting. Thus their constant attempts at voter suppression which only doubles down on the stupidity which got them to this low state of affairs and which is no solution to their problems at all. The smart people in the GOP already know this but their own toxic, hate filled base, won't let them make the needed changes and that is why the GOP is destined to sink into a regional rural party. Berry Goldwater was right, the Republican Party has been captured by the extremists and now it can't become unstuck.

WTH are you talking about? There are extremists on both sides of the aisle. The Republican base isn't about racism or hate nor are the majority extremists. That's just pure propaganda by lefties, liberals and ethnocentrics. Most Republicans want our immigration laws enforced so according to the above groups they are racists. The Republicans want honest elections by voter ID laws so according to the above they are racists. The Republicans want every able bodied American to be gainfully employed rather than living off the government dole so accordiing to the above groups they are racists. The stupid list of lies and propaganda goes on and on.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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The Republican base isn't about racism or hate nor are the majority extremists...
Then by all means the moderates in the Republican Party need to step up and muzzle the parade of loonybat crazy butt clowns they paraded around as potential presidential candidates this last go-round, because it does nothing but make the members of the party look like paranoiac, shrieking morons and mentally ill people when you allow complete jokes like Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan appear as the movers and shakers of the party. Last election cycle there was hardly a Republican anywhere in the nation that didn't manage to say the most ludicrous, ignorant and bonheaded nonsense on camera or in print.

I sure have no love for the Democratic Party either, but the past couple of decades, Republicans are just increasingly going off the rails into lunacy and irrelevance. They need to jettison their extremist element and get back to actual conservative principles which they unfortunately abandoned back around the mid 1970s.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 06:01 AM
 
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They all did, its just you have an agenda so you'll refuse any links posted, including the NYT. Posters like you are a dime a dozen, no matter what is posted you will claim "that's not true" and simply ignore it.



Math appears not to be your strong suit, since 3 1/2 years is within ten years. Second, even a cursory search of recently closed hospitals such as St. Vincent's in NYC show that they have closed due to non-payments/reduced medicaid payments for illegals. Given that illegals are swamping hospitals around the country for basic care - and often have no method of paying for it, the rational would grasp that they are damaging the health care system. Really not to hard to put the two together; lots of hospitals closing due to non-payment, and illegals have little/no method of paying for care

L.A. Emergency Rooms Full of Illegal Immigrants | Fox News

Study: Illegal immigrants cost Texas, hospitals $677 million - Houston Chronicle

Hawthorne Hospital to Shut Doors - Los Angeles Times

Excellent post but it will fall on deaf ears with this person. Agenda (for whatever the mysterious reason is) trumps facts, common sense and logic.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 06:11 AM
 
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Then by all means the moderates in the Republican Party need to step up and muzzle the parade of loonybat crazy butt clowns they paraded around as potential presidential candidates this last go-round, because it does nothing but make the members of the party look like paranoiac, shrieking morons and mentally ill people when you allow complete jokes like Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan appear as the movers and shakers of the party. Last election cycle there was hardly a Republican anywhere in the nation that didn't manage to say the most ludicrous, ignorant and bonheaded nonsense on camera or in print.

I sure have no love for the Democratic Party either, but the past couple of decades, Republicans are just increasingly going off the rails into lunacy and irrelevance. They need to jettison their extremist element and get back to actual conservative principles which they unfortunately abandoned back around the mid 1970s.
Is the left muzzling their extremists? No, because neither the left nor the right are a one size fits all within their party. Intelligent people know that the extremists on either side don't represent the majority on either side. Only those with an agenda will hold up the extremists as representing the side they don't agree with.

I don't consider most of those you mentioned on the right as complete jokes. It is merely your biased opinion that there were hardly any Republicans in the last election that weren't saying ludicrous, ignorant and boneheaded nonsense.

I suppose you think that the Democrat's advocacy to grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens with 23 million Americans out of work isn't lunacy? It isn't their extremists who desire that either but the majority of Democrat congressmen. That is just the tip of the iceberg. I suggest that the left clean up their own backyards before attacking the right.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 07:05 AM
 
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I agree, good post!
I would go for that - stop all immigration, no exceptions.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 07:18 AM
 
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Teddy Kennedy's 1965 immigration act so dramatically altered the kinds of immigrants America admits that, since 1969, about 85 percent of legal immigrants have come from the Third World. They bring Third World levels of poverty, fertility, illegitimacy and domestic violence with them. When they can't make it in America, they simply go on welfare and sometimes strike out at Americans.

In other words, admit only white people. Sorry shemale Coulter, these dudes were white girl.

Thanks Ann. First you said the terrorists were illegally in the country (not true) and now the problem is that they are immigrants (but she failed to point the fact they are/were white)

There is a lot of successful americans that are of russian/slavic descent. The terrorists are literally caucasian. The fact is the terrorists were sick, deranged individuals. Even some american born are sick deranged individuals.


Boston bombers were neither Russians nor of slavic origin. Believe me or not, it is a big difference.
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