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Old 04-26-2013, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Really? Don't you remember Katrina, which happened when Bush was on vacation? Bush appointed a guy with no experience to run FEMA -- I take that back, he had experience running horse shows.

The Bush WH also outed a CIA agent; they fired Asst US Attorneys for not prosecuting democrats who were political foes but committed no crimes; they tapped American's phones without warrant and locked up citizens without charges. That's getting government to work?

But why was Bush able to pass legislation? For most of the time they had a GOP House and Senate and when they didn't, the Democratic Senate didn't filibuster every single Bush initiative.
When I mean getting government to work, I'm talking about passing and enacting legislation. Katrina was a mismanagement, not a failure of government. Government was perfectly capable of responding, and had everything mostly ready.
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Obama already has a higher net job creation than Bush did during his EIGHT disastrous years as president. Keep in mind that Bush left Obama a nice going away present in the form of 3.5 million job losses during the first 6 months of 2009. Obama wasn't handed a budget surplus, zero wars and 5% unemployment.

Bush = the ultimate failure

Oh yeah, that 4-5% unemployment under Bush was a nightmare!

Sure am glad it's permanently stuck at 8% now.

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How Did GW Bush Cause Our Current Economic Problems?


NFN, with 4-5% unemployment, how many jobs did you expect to be created?

In contrast, wonderboy was handed an economy that was bottoming-out.

Given the severity of the downturn, there's no reason the economy shouldn't have come roaring back.

All he had to do was wait for the economy to rebound and take credit for the recovery that was going to happen anyway, but NO!

He had to run trillion dollar deficits to pay off his supporters and create the largest government boondoggle in world history.

Now we have the lowest civilian workforce participation rate in thirty years and more people going on disability than finding jobs.

Obama sucks!


This is what a real recovery looks like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W977W0Pmxc4

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Old 04-26-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Oh yeah, that 4-5% unemployment under Bush was a nightmare!

Sure am glad it's permanently stuck at 8% now.

US Misery Index - Custom Index by Month

How Did GW Bush Cause Our Current Economic Problems?


NFN, with 4-5% unemployment, how many jobs did you expect to be created?

In contrast, wonderboy was handed an economy that was bottoming-out.

All he had to do was wait for the economy to rebound and take credit for the recovery that was going to happen anyway, but NO!

He had to run trillion dollar deficits to pay off his supporters and create the largest government boondoggle in world history.

Now we have the lowest civilian workforce participation rate in thirty years and more people going on disability than finding jobs.

Obama sucks!
So where was the unemployment when Bush was leaving office? Wouldn't it be great if Obama created a bubble and left the problem for the next president to be blamed for.
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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So where was the unemployment when Bush was leaving office? Wouldn't it be great if Obama created a bubble and left the problem for the next president to be blamed for.
Don't forget that Bush inherited a bubble too (the tech bubble). Unemployment here (WA state) got to around 7.9 pct, IIRC. The difference was that Bush did not try a bunch of bailouts, stimuli, green jobs, increased welfare state, etc. He let the economy self-correct, and within a year or two things were back to normal.
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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So where was the unemployment when Bush was leaving office? Wouldn't it be great if Obama created a bubble and left the problem for the next president to be blamed for.

Didn't bother to follow the links?

Take-up the financial collapse with Clinton.

As for Bummer, it's been four years.

Economic downturns are almost always followed by a rebound, so what the idiot's excuse?

The worse the recession, the stronger the recovery, but that hasn't happened because Democrats are running up trillion dollar deficits in order to buy votes from slackers.

The ugly truth is that the more Democrats destroy the economy, the more they can save desperate people from the sh***y economy their policies create.

Remember, with 14% unemployment prior to the military draft being reinstated in 1940, FDR still had to die in office to lose the White House.

Voter desperation is a Democrat's best friend.
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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im betting history will be kind to G-Dub, and not so much to Bammer.
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Don't forget that Bush inherited a bubble too (the tech bubble). Unemployment here (WA state) got to around 7.9 pct, IIRC. The difference was that Bush did not try a bunch of bailouts, stimuli, green jobs, increased welfare state, etc. He let the economy self-correct, and within a year or two things were back to normal.
Uh, Bush passed TARP in 2008. Not what I call allowing the economy to self-correct.

Unemployment in 2001 stayed under 5% until September, when it hit 5% on the dot. Definitely comparable to The Great Recession . Face it: Clinton handed Bush a glorious economy, and the Shrub wrecked it.

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Old 04-26-2013, 01:44 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Oh yeah, that 4-5% unemployment under Bush was a nightmare!

Sure am glad it's permanently stuck at 8% now.

US Misery Index - Custom Index by Month

How Did GW Bush Cause Our Current Economic Problems?


NFN, with 4-5% unemployment, how many jobs did you expect to be created?

In contrast, wonderboy was handed an economy that was bottoming-out.

Given the severity of the downturn, there's no reason the economy shouldn't have come roaring back.

All he had to do was wait for the economy to rebound and take credit for the recovery that was going to happen anyway, but NO!

He had to run trillion dollar deficits to pay off his supporters and create the largest government boondoggle in world history.


Now we have the lowest civilian workforce participation rate in thirty years and more people going on disability than finding jobs.
Thanks for your EXPERT opinion on economics!

If only Obama had listened to YOU instead of those dumb college economic professors?

Hey look ... the Dow is up again today !!!
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Dow Jones 14,741.84 +41.04 (0.28%)
Now what was the Dow trading at back in March 2009 .... around 6,500?

By the way .... national unemployment is currently at 7.6% and has been moving downward for the past 2+ years .... not "stuck at 8%" like you said above.

See for yourself: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

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Old 04-26-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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Almost as many people (47 percent) approve of how Bush handled his eight years in office as disapprove (50 percent), according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll. Thatís the highest approval rating for Bush since December 2005.


George W. Bush


Look for Bush's popularity to continue to increase and for him to take an active roll in campaigning for Republicans.

You heard it here first.
Jimmy Carter has higher approval ratings also since he left office. What's your point?
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Don't forget that Bush inherited a bubble too (the tech bubble). Unemployment here (WA state) got to around 7.9 pct, IIRC. The difference was that Bush did not try a bunch of bailouts, stimuli, green jobs, increased welfare state, etc. He let the economy self-correct, and within a year or two things were back to normal.
The tech bubble only effected cities that didn't diversify their economy, Washington state should of known better because it was the same mistake they made in the 70s, and now the state is doing much better and much more diverse.

Also, the economy didn't self correct itself, Bush passed two stimulus and started two wars to help boost the economy.
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