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Old 04-26-2013, 03:19 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Well I am not a liberal, but we haven't lost 3000 Americans in a terrorist attack for one. We haven't started two wars which lasted almost 10 years between the two, and unpaid for. President Obama wasn't at the helm with the largest economic crash since the great depression. Single largest expansion of Medicare under Bush. The federal government can look at the books I check out at the library ......

List goes on and on. Now, I will say that Bush was more effective at getting government to work! Meaning that they were passing laws and legislation. Obama is an ineffective leader. But Washington seems to work best when nothing gets done.
I think that because of a group of powerful republicans who made a pact BEFORE Pres. Obama even took office may have a big hand in the stalmate in Washington. For some reason these Anti-Obamabots tend to overlook that fact.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Really? Don't you remember Katrina, which happened when Bush was on vacation? Bush appointed a guy with no experience to run FEMA -- I take that back, he had experience running horse shows.

The Bush WH also outed a CIA agent; they fired Asst US Attorneys for not prosecuting democrats who were political foes but committed no crimes; they tapped American's phones without warrant and locked up citizens without charges. That's getting government to work?

But why was Bush able to pass legislation? For most of the time they had a GOP House and Senate and when they didn't, the Democratic Senate didn't filibuster every single Bush initiative.
I could add that Bush took a fiscal system that was running surpluses, lowered taxes to the point where we haven't seen anything but deficits since.

So, from a policy standpoint the Bush years were a remarkable failure.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:48 PM
 
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They have always been focused on the oil.
That is all Halliburton does. Government contracts. From 2007, that increases yearly. 32 billion last year and your showing 18.4 billion as big money under Bush. Halliburton has made 3 times more in 4 years, than it did in 8 years under Bush.
Before the no-bid contracts courtesy of Cheney, they were not killing the market. If you can recall oil was not as expensive as it is now. From the billions of dollars from Iraq and Afghanistan (with many faulty products and corner cutting) up until Katrina their stocks soared. When the price of oil started to rise again they simply went back to their orignal product.

This still does not take away that a sitting V.P was still able to profit from a war that he help promote, which by definition makes him a war profiteer. In case that you did not know, it is illegal in this country.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:57 PM
 
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We currently have 8.7 million people receiving SS disability benefits. The number of disabled veterans returning from Afghanistan is just a drop in that bucket.
Despite your scary love for pizz-poor ex-president, apparently you do not work in the VA hospital and for some reason you totally ignored the thousands that are STILL coming in from the Iraq war with something called PTSD. Which is something that your beloved bush and his butt buddy cheney would never know since they both escaped the same fate that they pushed on someone else's children
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Despite your scary love for pizz-poor ex-president, apparently you do not work in the VA hospital and for some reason you totally ignored the thousands that are STILL coming in from the Iraq war with something called PTSD. Which is something that your beloved bush and his butt buddy cheney would never know since they both escaped the same fate that they pushed on someone else's children


Thousands isn't millions, is it?
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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Gee wiz, according to your link, they are making more money in the Middle-East.

"Outside North America, activity was mixed, Halliburton said, with modest revenue increases in Latin America and the Middle East-Asia regions, but a decline in the Europe, Africa and former Soviet countries."

Halliburton profit up as onshore activity jumps | Reuters
I posted that link to another question. It has nothing to do with what they made during the bush reign.
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Before the no-bid contracts courtesy of Cheney, they were not killing the market. If you can recall oil was not as expensive as it is now. From the billions of dollars from Iraq and Afghanistan (with many faulty products and corner cutting) up until Katrina their stocks soared. When the price of oil started to rise again they simply went back to their orignal product.

This still does not take away that a sitting V.P was still able to profit from a war that he help promote, which by definition makes him a war profiteer. In case that you did not know, it is illegal in this country.

Oil wasn't as expensive in 2008 as it is now?
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:54 PM
 
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Thousands isn't millions, is it?
100% disabilty X a person's lifespan at 24yo. you figure it out.

I think that it is amazing that you are such a flag waving patriot but so easily (like your hero bush) dismiss the veterans that did your dirty work and are still coming home with the horrors from an unecessary war so casually
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:55 PM
 
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Oil wasn't as expensive in 2008 as it is now?
Do you even have a clue why the price of oil shot up so high in the first place during that time?
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Old 04-27-2013, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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The tech bubble only effected cities that didn't diversify their economy, Washington state should of known better because it was the same mistake they made in the 70s, and now the state is doing much better and much more diverse.

Also, the economy didn't self correct itself, Bush passed two stimulus and started two wars to help boost the economy.
And two tax cuts which also boosted the economy.
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