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Old 05-12-2013, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Congress had a very simple alternative to the Bill they passed, offer every American access to the healthcare program Congress enjoys at the same cost.
They couldn't afford it....
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:09 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Obama said "If you like your health plan you can keep it" That`s what I`m doing too.
Sure, as long as it complies with what he wants in his plan. If it differs at all, it is attacked and the individual is taxed (fined for non compliance) by his minions.
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:10 AM
 
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The Dems are screwed on this matter.

Their staff will end up having to pay more for health care on the exchanges than what the Feds give their employees.

No excuses.

Yes even republican staff will end up paying more also. But the Dems passed the ACA with zero republican support. I think they tried to sneak a change in but it's become so a big story there is no way out for them to try to exempt themsleves.
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:11 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Some of the comments from right-wingers on this issue make me wonder whether myopic selfishness rides hand-and-hand with a penchant for outrageous violence against those who hold opposing perspectives. Is there any hope that right-wingers can be brought around to a moral, mature, responsible form of participation in government, or is it their intention to practice distinctly antisocial behaviors when they don't get their way imposing their antisocial policies on the nation?
About the same chance as the democrats coming around to a "moral, mature, responsible form of participation in government" as opposed to attempting to dictate acceptable behavior (by their tems of course) for the entire nation.
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:13 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Pay more attention to what your fellow right-wingers have posted in the thread and you won't be so confused.
Read the entire bill (if you have weeks to waste on it) and you won't be confused at the opposition to it.

But, as usual, that is to much effort for its supporters.
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Old 05-13-2013, 03:03 AM
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Location: Georgia
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Im not confused, you are simply ranting off topic.
Incorrect: Your fellow right-winger raised the issue.

Pay attention.
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:02 AM
 
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Incorrect: Your fellow right-winger raised the issue.

Pay attention.
Nearly everyone is now raising the issue. Trying to exempt themselves from this law just goes to show how lame those who passed it are and how bad it really is.

As one who passed this how do you tell others that it is wrong for others to continue to try to get out of something that you tried to get out of?
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:59 AM
bUU
 
Location: Georgia
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The Congress should remain - should always be - subject to the same laws they find suitable to apply to others. More than that, I believe Congress and their aides should actually have no benefits that the typical American, in a comparable position in the private sector, generally don't have. Congress should be made to feel what we all feel. Perhaps that could get Congress to replace ACA with a single-payer universal health care system.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:40 AM
 
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The Congress should remain - should always be - subject to the same laws they find suitable to apply to others. More than that, I believe Congress and their aides should actually have no benefits that the typical American, in a comparable position in the private sector, generally don't have. Congress should be made to feel what we all feel. Perhaps that could get Congress to replace ACA with a single-payer universal health care system.
They had the chance to do that but didn't so I wouldn't hold out much hope now.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:48 AM
bUU
 
Location: Georgia
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So we live with that reality and move forward trying to achieve the best we can for those who need the most assistance, regardless. We don't use that limitation as an excuse for engaging in self-serving opportunism, as the most vocal opponents of ACA would have us do.
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