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Old 04-25-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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It's sad when a grown ass adult hasn't figured out yet that any child born on American soil is and will always be an American citizen.
A case has never been tried by the Supreme Court as to whether or not a child born from illegal alien parents is a citizen according to the 14th Amendment. It has only been assumed. I don't believe the writers of the 14th intended that because of the clause "and" subject to the jurisdiction thereof. The parents are not subject to our jurisidiction nor should their offspring be. They are subject to the jurisdiction of their own homeland. Sure they will be prosecuted if they break any laws but that isn't the same thing.

It would be very simple for the SC to clarify the birthright citizenship clause. At any rate many countries have changed birthright citizenship to be only for babies born of at least one citizen parent. We should do likewise considering the scams going on.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Walton County, GA
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If the kid stays here till age 18, and then petitions the parents in, then yes, it DOES pretty much guarantee citizenship.
21, not 18 for sponsorship.

The illegal parent then must leave the US first before they are able to be sponsored then re-enter with a valid visa.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:44 PM
 
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If the kid stays here till age 18, and then petitions the parents in, then yes, it DOES pretty much guarantee citizenship.

Wrong. The child can petition to bring their parents over and they can enter with a VALID VISA. the parents will need to go through the citizenship process like every immigrant who is seeking to naturalize here. Which means a permanent stay of at least 7 years to do so.

they do not get automatic citizenship when they arrive.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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A case has never been tried by the Supreme Court as to whether or not a child born from illegal alien parents is a citizen according to the 14th Amendment. It has only been assumed. I don't believe the writers of the 14th intended that because of the clause "and" subject to the jurisdiction thereof. The parents are not subject to our jurisidiction nor should their offspring be. They are subject to the jurisdiction of their own homeland. Sure they will be prosecuted if they break any laws but that isn't the same thing.

It would be very simple for the SC to clarify the birthright citizenship clause. At any rate many countries have changed birthright citizenship to be only for babies born of at least one citizen parent. We should do likewise considering the scams going on.
In that case Ms. Malkin wouldnt be a citizen either... oh if only
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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People like to throw the term "anchor baby" around and I have a feeling that most have absolutely no idea what the legal "benefits" of having a US-born baby are.

Instead, they cry about "anchor babies" as though having a baby who is born in the US bestows any immediate benefit upon the parent.

What do you think the parents can do once their child is a US citizen?

Do you think it allows them to stay in the US?
Do you think they can apply for permanent residency (a green card)?
Do you think they can apply for US citizenship?
Do you think they are entitled to US benefits?

What immediate benefits do you think an "anchor baby" bestows upon the parents?
Oh this is so easy. Illegal immigrant parents are using the sympathy ploy to remain here because they have a U.S. citizen child. Their U.S. born child can sponsor them for citizenship once they become of age. They get U.S. benefits aka welfare and all other kinds of freebies through their U.S. born child.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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There is no such thing as an anchor baby. Being the parent of a citizen does not entitle one to become a citizen or even to remain in the United States.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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Oh this is so easy. Illegal immigrant parents are using the sympathy ploy to remain here because they have a U.S. citizen child. Their U.S. born child can sponsor them for citizenship once they become of age. They get U.S. benefits aka welfare and all other kinds of freebies through their U.S. born child.
As far as I am concerned either BOTH children of non-permanent and illegal aliens are anchor babies of Neither is
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:50 PM
 
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There is no such thing as an anchor baby. Being the parent of a citizen does not entitle one to become a citizen or even to remain in the United States.
It's one foot in the door, however. It anchors them onto our welfare coffers for their U.S. born children also.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: texas
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A case has never been tried by the Supreme Court as to whether or not a child born from illegal alien parents is a citizen according to the 14th Amendment. It has only been assumed. I don't believe the writers of the 14th intended that because of the clause "and" subject to the jurisdiction thereof. The parents are not subject to our jurisidiction nor should their offspring be. They are subject to the jurisdiction of their own homeland. Sure they will be prosecuted if they break any laws but that isn't the same thing.

It would be very simple for the SC to clarify the birthright citizenship clause. At any rate many countries have changed birthright citizenship to be only for babies born of at least one citizen parent. We should do likewise considering the scams going on.
There has never had to be a case[before the US Supreme Court] to have to make that clarification. No one has ever disallowed citizen classification to any person born on US Soil.

If you want to change that practice, then it is up to you and your friends to bring suit before the court.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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