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Old 04-25-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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For actual cash welfare there is also a life time cap of two years so even if they cycle on and off they'll quickly hit the life time cap.
Very true....but you know what happened with the welfare law changes in the mid 1990s...

After welfare benefits end....many roll straight into disability payments. The number of people on disability has more than doubled in the past 15 years since the welfare program changed.

What to bet there is a correlation between capping welfare benefits to the explosion of disability claims?

People have to realize the USA is the 3rd most populated country in the world. Yet it's "poor" live much better than the "poor" in the slums of China, India and Brazil.

But there comes a point where the country cannot afford to provide for everyone and the USA's "poor" may have to adjust to the poor conditions like they have in Brazil. I have been to Brazil. Go to the slums. See how other countries treat the poor.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:11 PM
 
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Even in California the max on food stamps is $200 per person per month and only ~40% get that full amount. The average is $120 per month or $4 per day or $1.33 per meal.

That's hardly lavish and, no, $1.33 doesn't buy many luxury foods.
I'm sorry but since when is food stamps supposed to replace your entire food budget? I make $2,000 a month and after taxes and all over expenses (rent, util, phone, car insurance, etc) that's probably more than a spend a month on food.

I would love to have that $200/month in 'free' money. And keep in mind, that's just for one person. The way I've seen the blacks at work selling their ebt cards, those with just one child will still have at least $300/m (tax free) on it.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:38 PM
 
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I'm sorry but since when is food stamps supposed to replace your entire food budget? I make $2,000 a month and after taxes and all over expenses (rent, util, phone, car insurance, etc) that's probably more than a spend a month on food.

I would love to have that $200/month in 'free' money. And keep in mind, that's just for one person. The way I've seen the blacks at work selling their ebt cards, those with just one child will still have at least $300/m (tax free) on it.
I know. People fail to understand what "supplemental" means. It amazes me.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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Very true....but you know what happened with the welfare law changes in the mid 1990s...

After welfare benefits end....many roll straight into disability payments. The number of people on disability has more than doubled in the past 15 years since the welfare program changed.

What to bet there is a correlation between capping welfare benefits to the explosion of disability claims?

People have to realize the USA is the 3rd most populated country in the world. Yet it's "poor" live much better than the "poor" in the slums of China, India and Brazil.

But there comes a point where the country cannot afford to provide for everyone and the USA's "poor" may have to adjust to the poor conditions like they have in Brazil. I have been to Brazil. Go to the slums. See how other countries treat the poor.

Ah, but the middle class majority won't let the poor enjoy the cost savings that come with that lifestyle. for example, housing standards are set at middle class standards, so poor people who want rock bottom housing can't find it because it's been regulated out of existence.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:44 PM
 
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I know. People fail to understand what "supplemental" means. It amazes me.
I suppose that's true. I mean, for many people, SNAP supplements their starvation "diet" with some food
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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Iím actually shocked that Oregonís SNAP participation is 20% (just below number 1 on the list, Mississippi at 21%) and Maineís participation is 19% (same as Alabama, Kentucky, and West Virginia) Ė very interesting.

Great thread, by the way .

The food stamp formula is based on income as well as (housing + medical expenses).

Oregon has high un(der)employment and low wages, combined with high rents = high food stamp use.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:54 PM
 
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I'd also like to point out that food stamps does not allow someone to buy luxurious food like filet mignon, salmon, king crab, ribeye, etc. in decent quantities like so many tea partiers have allegedly witnessed on here. $250 a month per person is not a lot of food and usually is enough to buy cheap, unhealthy, per-processed crap and soft drinks. $1.80 for a 2 liter soda or almost $4.50+ for a gallon of milk. Talk about the easy life

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The Food and Nutrition Act of 2008 (the Act) defines eligible food as any food or food product for home consumption and also includes seeds and plants which produce food for consumption by SNAP households. The Act precludes the following items from being purchased with SNAP benefits: alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, hot food and any food sold for on-premises consumption. Nonfood items such as pet foods, soaps, paper products, medicines and vitamins, household supplies, grooming items, and cosmetics, also are ineligible for purchase with SNAP benefits.

Soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack crackers, and ice cream are food items and are therefore eligible items

Seafood, steak, and bakery cakes are also food items and are therefore eligible items.

Eligible Food Items



Seafood and steak definitely includes surf and turf!

How many working people can afford filet mignon and king crab?
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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The Food and Nutrition Act of 2008 (the Act) defines eligible food as any food or food product for home consumption and also includes seeds and plants which produce food for consumption by SNAP households. The Act precludes the following items from being purchased with SNAP benefits: alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, hot food and any food sold for on-premises consumption. Nonfood items such as pet foods, soaps, paper products, medicines and vitamins, household supplies, grooming items, and cosmetics, also are ineligible for purchase with SNAP benefits.

Soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack crackers, and ice cream are food items and are therefore eligible items

Seafood, steak, and bakery cakes are also food items and are therefore eligible items.

Eligible Food Items



Seafood and steak definitely includes surf and turf!

How many working people can afford filet mignon and king crab?
I KNEW someone was going to come along and post this non-sense. YES you can buy anything that is fresh, including filet mignon but how much is that one purchase going to put a dent into your allowance? Please elaborate for all of us. SNAP recipients do not have $200 allowance for each type of food . You can choose to buy a few cuts of filet mignon and have it last a week at most, or you can buy cheap crap that lasts you until the next EBT recharge. What you posted is misinformation
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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Nary a word of CORPORATE Welfare? That figures...................

A comparison of welfare for the poor, welfare for the rich, and corporate welfare
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:15 PM
 
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Nary a word of CORPORATE Welfare? That figures...................

A comparison of welfare for the poor, welfare for the rich, and corporate welfare
Yeah but the "job creators" are better than all of us and deserve to be subsidized 100% with 0% tax rates on all wealth and subsidies on their business activities
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