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Old 04-25-2013, 09:07 PM
 
Location: WY
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Where are the stats on the number of children also receiving free school breakfasts and lunches during the school year? Also where are the stats on the number of children who receive free lunches at churches, community centers, public pools etc. on an organized grant-funded-basis throughout the summer when school is out?

Those wanting to divert the conversation and speak to the issue of corporate welfare have valid points, that they should raise when they start another thread.
My mistake. This summer lunch program is not grant funded. It is provided by the USDA:
Summer Food Service Program (SFSP) | Food and Nutrition Service
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: WY
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You must be a US citizen to get welfare. FACT!

The illegals cannot get welfare though their citizen children can just like any other citizen. That said, only the citizens can get anything.
How does the citizen baby reach the little swipe-card-machine at the grocery store?

OK.....lame joke.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:21 PM
 
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What is not being focused on here is the fact that people are living well on welfare. They are scamming the system - Some work, some steal, some deal drugs.

And it's the benefits they get by putting their kids on Medicaid, claiming they have autism, ADD or whatever....and these people milk the system.

I drive a handicapped friend to the store twice a month. When we get to the mall in the evening, there is not one handicapped spot...and the people with their handicapped tags are jumping out of their $40,000 SUVs and vans - brand new...and everyone is jumping for joy, not one is even limping.

And yes, they are buying damned good food in the supermarket.

How about the housing allowances (such as section 8, or public housing) - add that to the numbers.

People truly do need help...but we have too many people ripping off the system.

The illegal immigrants have the various non-profit groups that they go to directly, and they guide them right through the system. And don't tell me these groups exist for anything else....Like what?...to get jobs for illegals?...

This group of illegals we now have in this country are to a good part made up of scammers...There are plenty that do want to work - But hell!....who turns down something for nothing, when they are told it's their rights.

Let's face it, in the ghettos we have people that are 3rd generation welfare (that's not 5 years...)...and you have the same in West Virginia...Did many of you see the show about the Whites (family) of West Virginia...they seemed be to doing well with their "crazy" checks.

Let's not diminish the numbers by drawing lines between state benefits and federal benefits....it comes down to the same thing - people living off of the taxpayers. Call it welfare, public dole or whatever...it's all part of the single problem, isn't it.

And there's jobs out there...Hell what are the illegals doing here?...And don't give me the Bulls*** about below minimum wages - Any business person will pay a good worker their value. And I knew illegals getting $12 - $15 per hour...Because they were worth it.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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Ha. Work in an inner city hospital. See the "poor", on Medicaid....a woman with the latest cell phone, most expensive running shoes, hair done, nails done, asking where she can go out and smoke....did I forget to mention the Louis Vuitton bag and full length leather coat?
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:36 PM
 
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NPR, one of the last bastions of true journalism left in the country - Poverty In The U.S. By The Numbers : NPR

This is a link to the whole "Poverty in America" series by NPR which is full of facts which dispell just about all of the ignornant talking points which are so popular with the political right in this country. Facts just aren't their friends.
Poverty In America: The Struggle To Get Ahead : NPR
They are leaving out one thing...the people working off the books - the underground economy which is vast in this country. And these scammers are being counted as living in poverty by these statistics.

And I'll repeat again...the people scamming the system are pimping, dealing, bookies, handymen, landscapers....on and on and on...Even the mobsters are scamming the welfare system....How about all the vending machines you see?...How does the government confirm how much income they are making for the owners?...Do you see calculators attached to them?...And how many vending machines do you see on a given day?

NPR, Pew, the government agencies...and all the other analytical sources are just out of touch with reality...Counting what you see is one thing...But you've got to learn to see every thing that should be counted.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Aiken, South Carolina, US of A
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I am ashamed at some of the posters on this thread.
Can you imagine what people in developed countries think when they
read these posts?
You all do know that most of the people who you are complaining about
are minor children, right?
The American children don't deserve a home to live in.
The American children don't deserve food at school or home at dinner.
The American children don't deserve medical attention when they get sick.
Our children don't deserve the basics? They should live like the slums in Brazil?
Are you people Americans? Please tell me that you aren't.
Who do you think is going to take care of all of you when you are old?
The American children are.
Who is going to be working paying taxes for your Social Security?
Who is going to be our future?
All of you have absolutely no idea what you are writing about on this thread.
Do any of you know what it is like to work really hard and still be hungry?
Not one of you who wrote a nasty comment.
Shame on you!
We can send money overseas to other countries for their poor, but no
we can't feed the American children. They don't deserve it, their mom or dad
lost their job, or work for low wages so they aren't worth it.
Without our children, ALL OF OUR CHILDREN, we have NO Future.
I hope everyone who wrote a nasty comment on this board has a
wonderful life, never has to suffer hunger, or unemployment, because
you all are going to eat those words you typed here.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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I am ashamed at some of the posters on this thread. Can you imagine what people in developed countries think when they
read these posts? You all do know that most of the people who you are complaining about are minor children, right?

The American children don't deserve a home to live in.
The American children don't deserve food at school or home at dinner.
The American children don't deserve medical attention when they get sick.
Our children don't deserve the basics? They should live like the slums in Brazil?

Are you people Americans? Please tell me that you aren't. Who do you think is going to take care of all of you when you are old? The American children are.
Who is going to be working paying taxes for your Social Security? Who is going to be our future? All of you have absolutely no idea what you are writing about on this thread. Do any of you know what it is like to work really hard and still be hungry? Not one of you who wrote a nasty comment. Shame on you! We can send money overseas to other countries for their poor, but no we can't feed the American children. They don't deserve it, their mom or dad lost their job, or work for low wages so they aren't worth it. Without our children, ALL OF OUR CHILDREN, we have NO Future. I hope everyone who wrote a nasty comment on this board has a wonderful life, never has to suffer hunger, or unemployment, because you all are going to eat those words you typed here.

Shame on you for hiding behind the children. If people on welfare were decent people they wouldn't even consider bringing children into a life on welfare. To make it worse they teach the kids how to game the system too. You could care less about the children who's parents can't afford to do for them because the parents have to pay into the welfare abuse system. Shame on you for hiding behind the children. Shame on you for living of the labor of other people.

Shame on you!
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:29 PM
 
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Oh don't even hide behind the children. If people on welfare were decent people they wouldn't even consider bringing children into a life on welfare.

To make it worse they teach the kids how to game the system too.

Shame on you!
The same weirdos who complain about poor people having kids are the same idiots who demonize birth control and abortion.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:35 PM
 
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The same weirdos who complain about poor people having kids are the same idiots who demonize birth control and abortion.
LOLOL, demonizing birth control? You mean because we don't want to pay for you to play, oh but we are supposed to be happy to work overtime so we can pay for you to play. If you can't even afford to pay for your own birth control then stay out of the bedroom!

Abortion, yea, lets talk about that or doesn't liberal media talk about the Gosnell case. The doctor who is accused of snipping the spines of babies after they were born alive.

"Gosnell induced labor for women so pregnant that, as he joked on one occasion, the baby was so big he could “walk me to the bus stop.” Then, hundreds of times over the years, he slit their little necks, according to the grand jury report. Accused of regularly and illegally delivered live, viable, babies in the third trimester of pregnancy – and then murdered these newborns by severing their spinal cords with scissors. The medical practice by which he carried out this business was a filthy fraud in which he overdosed his patients with dangerous drugs, spread venereal disease among them with infected instruments, perforated their wombs and bowels – and, on at least two occasions, caused their deaths. Over the years, many people came to know that something was going on here. But no one put a stop to it."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...n-on-page-one/
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:36 PM
 
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LOLOL, demonizing birth control? You mean because we don't want to pay for you to play. If you can't even afford to pay for your own birth control then stay out of the bedroom!

Abortion, yea, lets talk about that or doesn't liberal media talk about the Gosnell case. The doctor who is on trial for snipping the spines of babies after they were born alive.
Like I said, these crazies whine that poor people have babies, yet demonize birth control and abortion.
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