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Wow, after reading through this thread, I'm just glad that apparently I'm not hypersensitive to the scents and odors of others. I mean, I can't say that everyone smells GREAT to me, but I'm rarely OFFENDED by another person's perfume, or hair products, or the slight odor of cigarettes when they come in from a smoke break.
Wow, after reading through this thread, I'm just glad that apparently I'm not hypersensitive to the scents and odors of others. I mean, I can't say that everyone smells GREAT to me, but I'm rarely OFFENDED by another person's perfume, or hair products, or the slight odor of cigarettes when they come in from a smoke break.
And I sure am glad about that. Live and let live.
My problem isn't the smell (although I don't like it).
My problem is I'm inhaling poison. Carbon monoxide is odorless but it will kill me too.
But you were able to quit, weren't you? Without multiple medications or wanting to kill yourself? There is obviously a rebound effect and even people who aren't depressed will get depressed with cessation. It's difficult to quit for everyone because there are withdrawals, but it is much more difficult for people who are self medicating. Only 24% of people who ever use tobacco products get addicted. Why is that? How can 76% take it and leave it, while a minority can't?
I have taken opiates for long periods of time without getting addicted (for medical reasons, legally, if anyone cares). The withdrawals sucked and made me want to find some more, but I could deal with it. However, there is a minority of people who can't because opiates fix something for them.
It took me multiple times to quit. And no I did not want to kill myself nor was I taking any medication. Why the heck would I want to kill myself. Anyway, the withdrawals are like with any other drug. You deal with it the best you can. Where did you get those percentages about smokers because I don't believe them.
And if the withdrawal sucks and makes you want more than yes you are addicted.
It took me multiple times to quit. And no I did not want to kill myself nor was I taking any medication. Why the heck would I want to kill myself. Anyway, the withdrawals are like with any other drug. You deal with it the best you can. Where did you get those percentages about smokers because I don't believe them.
And if the withdrawal sucks and makes you want more than yes you are addicted.
It took me dozens of tries to quit. That's a low estimate. And there are tons of other people who try dozens of times and fail. I ask if you wanted to kill yourself because I did every time I tried to quit until I was on both wellbutrin and chantix. I said, "likely have a mental illness" because I realize it's still an addictive substance and some people will get hooked if they keep taking it "just to look cool" because of the withdrawal symptoms. But I know first hand with my opiate experience that withdrawal symptoms aren't enough to keep people from kicking anything if they really want quit. Withdrawal symptoms are temporary and people can get through them. Mental illness is not. If you are self medicating for a mental illness with a drug, then cessation of that drug is going to give you symptoms indefinitely...that's why I believe most people who become dependent on substances and can't quit have at least a mild mental illness. Getting over withdrawal symptoms is a temporary setback that anyone with the will can do, although it isn't easy. But it becomes 10X harder when you have to deal with those withdrawal symptoms plus you get to experience your own mental illness again.
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I'm a smoker. If I am going to be in contact with clients, I have breath spray and a perfume atomizer with me. It's not enough for you uptight, wusses to send us out into 20 degree weather for a smoke, now you have to whine that "your eyes water". Wah, wah, wah! Some ugly people and their annoying voices make me want to puke, should we ban "ugly" and "annoying", too?
Who's whining now? lol 20 degree weather boo f'n hoo, grow up and quit smoking, stay inside and play with the adults.
By saying ugly people and their voices make you want to puke, you're clearly scraping the bottom of the barrel in this discussion because you have nothing. You admit that when you are meeting with clients you cover up your stench. Why is that? Because you know it's obscene and you know it's offensive and you know that no one is going to choose to business with someone who smells like an ashtray and makes them choke. Why force it upon other people who are simply trying to make a living?
It took me dozens of tries to quit. That's a low estimate. And there are tons of other people who try dozens of times and fail. I ask if you wanted to kill yourself because I did every time I tried to quit until I was on both wellbutrin and chantix. I said, "likely have a mental illness" because I realize it's still an addictive substance and some people will get hooked if they keep taking it "just to look cool" because of the withdrawal symptoms. But I know first hand with my opiate experience that withdrawal symptoms aren't enough to keep people from kicking anything if they really want quit. Withdrawal symptoms are temporary and people can get through them. Mental illness is not. If you are self medicating for a mental illness with a drug, then cessation of that drug is going to give you symptoms indefinitely...that's why I believe most people who become dependent on substances and can't quit have at least a mild mental illness. Getting over withdrawal symptoms is a temporary setback that anyone with the will can do, although it isn't easy. But it because 10X harder when you have to deal with those withdrawal symptoms plus you get to experience your own mental illness again.
People who start smoking have no idea how addictive it is. There is no mental illness though. It's just a legal and highly addictive drug. Some say nicotine is harder to quit than heroin. I have no idea about that though lol But at least they have rehab for heroin addicts. Smokers trying to quit on are their own.
I quit smoking in the mid-80s and I swore I'd never become an anti-smoking jackwagon. It's people who crusade "over the top" like this person who make me support smokers rights all the more.
Please explain how what I said is "over the top"?
I stated the fact that most companies have rules against the amount of perfume/cologne people wear. Most companies will take issue with an employee who is smelly or excessively sweating. And asked why they don't treat smokers the same way?
For my post and for admitting how the smell that lingered in my office affected me I've been called a whiner and a bunch of other immature nonsense, which I find funny and ironic but won't get into that now
But please Stripes17, explain to me what part of my question is "over the top"?
I support smokers rights. I support everyone rights. The people who don't support people's rights are the smokers who fill the air people are breathing with their toxic, carcinogenic stench, and the ground with their roaches.
Yes, the true disrespectors of rights in this debate are the smokers, who feel that they are the ONLY one with rights.
A vile, disgusting, rotten bunch of SOBs if ever there were any.
A little harsh, lol. But I can't disagree with what you said here in the bolded part.
It's a very self indulging "*********" habit where people who usually claim to be all about other people's rights ignore them so that they can puff on their little grown up pacifier.
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