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View Poll Results: Should Islamic immigration to the United States be stopped or banned?
Yes, ban all Islamic immigration 172 49.14%
Yeah, but only stop it temporarily 17 4.86%
No 161 46.00%
Voters: 350. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-29-2013, 10:38 AM
 
Location: La Jolla, CA
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I see Muslims occasionally, but I do not interact with them. I don't feel safe around them.
Plenty of storefront churches in neighborhoods ripe with assaults, thefts, murders, domestic violence, etc.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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No state religion is okay. I am not a Christian. Why do you assume I want Christianity to be a state religion?
Prohibiting Islamic immigration presumes that Islam is inferior. If no state religion is okay, how is it OK to have no official religion, but prevent those of only specific religions from becoming citizens, while allowing others?
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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Please compare Jesus vs. Muhammad. Compare Koran vs. New Testament.

Who was more peaceful, loving, friendly and a person people should admire? Come back.
Why make it a confrontation between religions? That is juvenile.

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Plenty of storefront churches in neighborhoods ripe with assaults, thefts, murders, domestic violence, etc.
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Prohibiting Islamic immigration presumes that Islam is inferior. If no state religion is okay, how is it OK to have no official religion, but prevent those of only specific religions from becoming citizens, while allowing others?
It presumes nothing. You are presuming. As any sovereign state, the US has the right to stop immigration (actually all immigration) without constantly apologizing. We can decide to encourage only scientists from Sweden and billionaires from Monaco to immigrate. Do you have a problem with that?
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Italy
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There is an online petition to stop and ban immigration from Islamic nations to the United States after the Boston bombings and other radical Muslim terror against the U.S. and the west.

What do you think?
Isn't freedom of religion permitted in the US??

Radical fringe groups do not speak for the whole. I know, because I've met many Muslims, none of whom have even hinted at wanting to convert, torture or bomb me.


Peace.
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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Prohibiting Islamic immigration presumes that Islam is inferior. If no state religion is okay, how is it OK to have no official religion, but prevent those of only specific religions from becoming citizens, while allowing others?
Muslims subscribe to a culture that is incomparable with the humanistic values of western culture. I am not calling them inferior. I just don't believe they belong here. Muslim posters on this thread have reaffirmed my stance on this.
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:58 PM
 
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Isn't freedom of religion permitted in the US??

Radical fringe groups do not speak for the whole. I know, because I've met many Muslims, none of whom have even hinted at wanting to convert, torture or bomb me.


Peace.
brian
If they had more demographic influence, I would bet they would want to do those things to you.
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:20 PM
 
Location: La Jolla, CA
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Muslims subscribe to a culture that is incomparable with the humanistic values of western culture. I am not calling them inferior. I just don't believe they belong here. Muslim posters on this thread have reaffirmed my stance on this.
Reaffirmed your stance as a eugenicist? Reaffirmed that you are OK with preferential treatment for those who follow certain religions? There is only one way to be equitable and to remain secular, that way being, banning immigration in its entirety.
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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If they had more demographic influence, I would bet they would want to do those things to you.
That's an irrational bet.

But since you are willing to unilaterally discriminate against over a billion people on this planet, I can see how you would irrationally accuse them of harboring ill will towards you.
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Italy
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If they had more demographic influence, I would bet they would want to do those things to you.
The ones I meet are usually family-oriented people who have the following values: family, work, children, a home, safety, peace.

I'm sorry. I just don't see Muslims as the "devils" that many Americans think they are. In my opinion, Americans need to get out more, learn more about the rest of the world, and you'll find out that we're all basically the same.


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Old 04-29-2013, 02:49 PM
 
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Until people realize that the intent of Islam is to end all opposition (this is what Jihad means) we are doomed.
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