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View Poll Results: Should Islamic immigration to the United States be stopped or banned?
Yes, ban all Islamic immigration 172 49.14%
Yeah, but only stop it temporarily 17 4.86%
No 161 46.00%
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:17 AM
 
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I would feel better if islam would denounce the violence called for in the koran. Instead, they pretend we don't know it's there. While Christians have done dome awful things, they have acted against the Christian faith while muslims act in accordance to theirs. THAT is what is scary. I now peace loving muslims but I wonder how quickly they could be turned using their own holy book to guide the way.

The Quran's Verses of Violence
Christians acted on what was in accordance as written in the Bible and the Old Testament.
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:30 AM
 
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This is the same level of denial that allowed Hitler and the nazis to gain such momentum. Americans and Europeans said it was all exaggerated, that the German people would NEVER allow the nazis to act on their words.

Can you tell me why the blatant and outspoken form of islamic supremacy (which any muslim who honors the quran must believe in) is any less dangerous than the nazi version of supremacy? At least the nazis treated women better than islam does.
Wow, you better go build your bunker so you have somewhere to hide when the uprising hits.

And you know how ALL Muslims treat women? How does that work?

Safe to assume you are referring to the Jewish women who were held in concentration camps.
How dare you use a comparison of what Nazis did to women and how Muslim men treat women.
You are seriously lacking on facts as to how women were treated and used - especially when it came to experiments by the Nazis. Read up on it and educate yourself. I don't think there was ever a woman who survived the camps that said "It could have been worse". What was done to those women (men and children) was dispicable. Shame on you.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Keep your blinders on Peacful brian.
It's not a question of blinders. It's simply that most Muslims (from my personal experience) are not people interested in violence, or blowing things up, or converting others to their religion.

Some Christians, on the other hand...



Peace.
brian
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:00 AM
 
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All immigrants are required by law to sign and take an oath of alegence to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to become citizens. To be here as aliens they still are required to do nothing to undermine our society.. This is just one of the very important issues the pro illegals dont want to talk about.The muslim religion has a "cancer" in it that conflicts with our Christian beliefs and those practicing it do need to be monitored while they are in OUR country.
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:10 AM
 
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The bombers were from Russia, you want to stop immigration from Russia?
We should invade Russia.

[shock and awe them]
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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All immigrants are required by law to sign and take an oath of alegence to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to become citizens. To be here as aliens they still are required to do nothing to undermine our society.. This is just one of the very important issues the pro illegals dont want to talk about.The muslim religion has a "cancer" in it that conflicts with our Christian beliefs and those practicing it do need to be monitored while they are in OUR country.
People like you, who think that this country functions on Christian beliefs, need to be monitored. You are a prime example of a good tolerant Christian hypocrite. You seem to discount all the other religions that are practiced in the US.

Maybe people born in America should be made to take the same oath of alligence?
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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I wouldn't mind seeing all immigration put on a "time out". Especially immigration from the third world and middle east.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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Safe to assume you are referring to the Jewish women who were held in concentration camps.
How dare you use a comparison of what Nazis did to women and how Muslim men treat women.
You are seriously lacking on facts as to how women were treated and used - especially when it came to experiments by the Nazis. Read up on it and educate yourself. I don't think there was ever a woman who survived the camps that said "It could have been worse". What was done to those women (men and children) was dispicable. Shame on you.
No, I was referring to how nazis and muslims treated their own women. Of course the nazis treated Jewish women horrifically, that's not up for debate. Clearly, you are a man, and YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOURSELF on how many muslim men treat women horrifically.

Try starting with this list:

*Many young muslim girls are given painful genital operations so they can't ever experience orgasms.
*It is acceptable for muslim women to be gang raped in "honor" rapings for their brother's or father's crimes.
*Many muslim women not allowed to vote or own property.
*Many muslim women are not allowed to have driver's licenses.
*Many muslim girls not allowed to go to school or learn to read--they don't want educated women.
*Many muslim women are not allowed out of their houses unless escorted by a male.
*Many muslim women uncomfortably covered up with burkas, etc.

The list is too long to keep going on here....

Try educating yourself by reading the writings and activism of Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Irshad Manji, both expatriate muslim women trying to reform the atrocities that muslim men and their religion do to muslim women. They are both constantly battling death threats from other muslims.

Those 2 women are MY HEROES, and both of them can't understand why America won't stand up to the truth about islamic supremacy. So, yes, I think even the nazis treated their women better than the muslims.

Now, should we go on to how muslims treat homosexuals?
But of course your hero, Ahmadinejad, says there are no such thing as homosexuals in Iran. But in many of the muslim countries that DO have them, they are beheaded, tortured, or put into life prison rehabilitation. But I guess you have a defense for that too.

Please tell me what makes islamic supremacy ( the belief that all non-musllims must die or be conquered) any less dangerous than naziism?
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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You are already doomed since you don't realize that not every Muslim follows the "intent" of Islam and that terrorists use Islam as an excuse to cause harm to others.
And not every German followed the intent of naziism, yet it still eventually proliferated and caused untold horror.
We have to stop hiding behind just calling this a "war on terror" as terror is just the methodology. The real war is on islamic supremacy manifesting around the world like naziism did. But we are still too spineless and imprisoned by political correctness to deal with it. Or, like under Bush, we make incredibly stupid and brash acts (invading Iraq) that instead of showing strength, show weakness and stupidity.

Sadly, you are still under the impression that there are just a handful of pesky terrorists causing all this havoc on the rest of the poor innocent muslims. Almost every war, every terrorist act on this planet is caused by muslims fighting someone. Millions of muslims have demanded the total destruction of the western world---millions....do your research.

Name one other religion that is at war with EVERYONE. Muslims are killing Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Christians everyday by the thousands. This is not about a handful of terrorists making a bad name for muslims......
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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No, I was referring to how nazis and muslims treated their own women. Of course the nazis treated Jewish women horrifically, that's not up for debate. Clearly, you are a man, and YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOURSELF on how many muslim men treat women horrifically.

Try starting with this list:

*Many young muslim girls are given painful genital operations so they can't ever experience orgasms.
*It is acceptable for muslim women to be gang raped in "honor" rapings for their brother's or father's crimes.
*Many muslim women not allowed to vote or own property.
*Many muslim women are not allowed to have driver's licenses.
*Many muslim girls not allowed to go to school or learn to read--they don't want educated women.
*Many muslim women are not allowed out of their houses unless escorted by a male.
*Many muslim women uncomfortably covered up with burkas, etc.

The list is too long to keep going on here....

Try educating yourself by reading the writings and activism of Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Irshad Manji, both expatriate muslim women trying to reform the atrocities that muslim men and their religion do to muslim women. They are both constantly battling death threats from other muslims.

Those 2 women are MY HEROES, and both of them can't understand why America won't stand up to the truth about islamic supremacy. So, yes, I think even the nazis treated their women better than the muslims.

Now, should we go on to how muslims treat homosexuals?
But of course your hero, Ahmadinejad, says there are no such thing as homosexuals in Iran. But in many of the muslim countries that DO have them, they are beheaded, tortured, or put into life prison rehabilitation. But I guess you have a defense for that too.

Please tell me what makes islamic supremacy ( the belief that all non-musllims must die or be conquered) any less dangerous than naziism?
Oh. I thought we were talking about the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yeman and the like. Have you been to many Islamic countries or do you get your knowledge off the internet?? I don't have a "defense" to your limited knowledge. I've been to several Islamic countries, have you?

I'M very aware of women advocates who are bringing awareness to the world as to what is going on in CERTAIN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, especially where it concerns FGM. What do you propose the US do about all the things that are wrong in certain Islamic countries? For that matter, what are you doing about it?

So you assume I am a man. You assume that I don't know what women in Islamic countries suffer. You assume that my hero is Ahmadinejad? You couldn't be more wrong about your BIG ASSumptions.
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