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Old 10-31-2007, 09:45 AM
 
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Yet another attempt to make Congress irrelevant and unnecessary. 50 bucks says this invertebrate Congress rolls over and takes it. This is a bad road to travel and if people can't see the blatant grab for power that this constitutes, then by all means, refer to him as supreme chancellor.

The Raw Story | White House says Bush plans administrative orders to govern, avoiding Congress

It's not quite signing statements, where President George W. Bush used legal means to "interpret" laws, allowing him to avoid Congressional directives, but the White House is now planning to implement as much new policy "as it can" by administrative order "after concluding that President Bush cannot do much business with the Democratic leadership."

"White House aides say the only way Bush seems to be able to influence the process is by vetoing legislation or by issuing administrative orders, as he has in recent weeks on veterans' health care, air-traffic congestion, protecting endangered fish and immigration," the Post authors write. "They say they expect Bush to issue more of such orders in the next several months, even as he speaks out on the need to limit spending and resist any tax increases."
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:53 AM
 
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How much force do "administrative orders" have? That doesn't seem to be within the delegated powers of the White House.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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but the White House is now planning to implement as much new policy "as it can" by administrative order "after concluding that President Bush cannot do much business with the Democratic leadership."
Translation - This Congress won't just roll over like a dog and do whatever the Bushies want, like it did the past 6 years.
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The next step is for "The Decider" to decide not to step down. Now that he has a "private" army provided by Blackwater getting him out may be more involved than just a legal election or observing term limits. Interesting days ahead.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:00 AM
 
Location: SanAnFortWAbiHoustoDalCentral, Texas
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Interesting days ahead.
Finally, excitement in government.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:02 AM
 
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So what's the difference between an Administrative Order and an Executive Order. I know an Executive Order has the force of law. But this is the first time I've heard the term Executive Order, are they the same thing?
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:07 AM
 
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Beyond the hype and the "bush-hate", that article wasn't too informative. Of course veto power is fully within executive power as dictated by the constitution, and congress has the ability to override a veto. Good for him, one of the problems I had with him is he wasn't using his veto powers ENOUGH, particularly on spending bills. Finally! As for administrative orders - I again see nothing conflicting with the role of executive power. It mentions foreign policy and "managerial" decisions, etc, sorry...that's what he was elected to do wheater you agree with it or not.

Next bush-hate post?
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:17 AM
 
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This is one reason I really wish citizens had the balls (or boobs! ) to vote in more independents into our Congress and House. Too much of this left and right BS and no one to stand in the middle and force them to stop being such partisan a$sholes. Everyone of the (Bush, Pelosi, etc.) that promised to put partisan politics aside have been proven to be straight out liars on that topic among others. Not that I expected much more than partisan bickering, but it just shows how effortlessly our leaders lie to us and forge ahead pursuing their agendas that personally benefit or satisfy them in some way.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Apparently some speculation this is his sneaky way he can go get his jollies by bombing Iran without getting Congressional Approval or involvement first. Look, the Decider made a Big Boom! heh, heh.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:48 AM
 
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Apparently some speculation this is his sneaky way he can go get his jollies by bombing Iran without getting Congressional Approval or involvement first. Look, the Decider made a Big Boom! heh, heh.
Such ignorance on executive power...if he wanted to bomb Iran rest assured he could do it with a simple phone call in about 5 seconds. He needs absolutely no congressional approval...yeah yeah there is the war powers acts and all that, but that hasn't been used in decades.

He didn't need approval for congressional military action in Iraq, but he did it as a courtesy. Lot of good it did him with all these senators now going "no I never wanted military action in Iraq, I was just for it before I was against it...".
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