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Old 05-01-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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Agenda 21 at work. Stack and rack em and make em dependent on public transit ie the government. Once they have their worker ants they hi speed rail will come and ship em off to their work detail leaving the land to the animals. Easier to control folks when they are confined to one area.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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Agenda 21 at work. Stack and rack em and make em dependent on public transit ie the government. Once they have their worker ants they hi speed rail will come and ship em off to their work detail leaving the land to the animals. Easier to control folks when they are confined to one area.
Some people don't like cars, gas, and insurance.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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The new units now available in a converted warehouse on Meltcher St start at $1700. I think they're a little larger though. ~550sq ft.

Seed urban neighborhoods with micro-apartments. - Opinion - The Boston Globe
Good article! The location is a big issue there, I think. A new construction 1 bedroom in that area would easily be $2500 a month - mostly because wealthy people are willing to pay a premium for newer construction. If they built that in an old warehouse in Somerville or Newton, the prices would be much more reasonable. But the article brings up a good point - there are more walls, plumbing, countertops, etc that go into building these buildings, so that cost is passed on to renters. New construction is a whole different ballgame as compared to the old triple deckers that just get a coat of paint slapped on them and a 15% rent increase between tenants.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Agenda 21 at work. Stack and rack em and make em dependent on public transit ie the government. Once they have their worker ants they hi speed rail will come and ship em off to their work detail leaving the land to the animals. Easier to control folks when they are confined to one area.
Did you think of that while sitting in your car in a traffic jam?
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:41 PM
 
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These are all liberal meccas where the powers that be keep a strong grip on the supply of housing, in close concert with their developer/real estate contributors.
Manhattan and Boston and San Francisco(and Seattle) all have another thing in common--they're pretty much constrained by geography as far as development goes. Any place that is on a peninsula or island or isthmus--with other incorporated cities on the land borders is going to end up being a dense place.

Furthermore, that density has become attractive in the current day and age with people flocking back to re-developed cities, which leads to the combination of high demand and prices for available housing and a shortage of new housing--unless one builds even denser or builds upwards. The governments in these cities actually try to develop more housing, however there's sometimes lot of home-owners in some residential areas who want to keep neighborhoods lower density and aren't in favor of more infill.

So it's not really the "liberal" governments of these cities that try to keep the supply of housing tight--most city governments want to grow and expand the tax base.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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These are all liberal meccas where the powers that be keep a strong grip on the supply of housing, in close concert with their developer/real estate contributors.
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That would explain Australia, but Boston is very dense already. What more can be built there?
This is key. Boston itself is VERY small and completely surrounded by water from the Charles River (and then the city of Cambridge on the other side, which was built out by 1700) or the Atlantic Ocean. The suburbs have all been built up before the turn of the century - the 20th century. In 1900, the streetcar suburbs sprawled with very low density housing units. Many have been converted into 2 family units, but that doesn't solve the problem. The density is high, but with low-density housing.

San Francisco, NYC, and Seattle all have similar problems. Seattle is "newer" in a sense, but it still is largely surrounded by water. Large cities in general tend to be built up around major bodies of water which limits their outward growth. That's why cities like Atlanta, Dallas, Omaha, and Austin are so cheap (comparatively) - there is no large body of water cutting off half of the opportunities for growth so there is plenty of room to build housing.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Earth
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These people need to get out of the way so WORKERS have a place to live close to the employement centers.
Why?
They have a right to live where ever they can afford and want to live.
So sorry that the world doesn't stop for you.
What do you plan? To kill them because they inconvenience you?
Talk about entitlement freaks...
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I think it is a great idea. There are many young and older folks, single without a brood to worry about that can make these work. It works in Japan....We have been pushing to become more like Europe so here we go. Rents in these cities are outrageous for most low level workers. Keeps the sidewalks clean.
We are small space people by nature and sometimes can't understand why some need over 3,000 sq.ft for one baby to crawl around in. That said, if you can afford the 3,000 sq ft then go for it, but I think the micro units are fantastic.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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Agenda 21 at work. Stack and rack em and make em dependent on public transit ie the government. Once they have their worker ants they hi speed rail will come and ship em off to their work detail leaving the land to the animals. Easier to control folks when they are confined to one area.
Because goodness forbid someone have housing/job/location preferences different from your own.

It's the market at work. Why do you hate freedom?
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:43 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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I was not aware that Seattle was dense, expensive or had housing problems. I could see this maybe here in Chicago or New York or San Fransisco where they have good public transportation and high density but in Seattle why would it be needed? Do they even have buses in Seattle?
About 750,000 people use Transit in the Seattle Area...and that grew by 50,000 last year...mostly on buses. Only 60,000 is by trains...
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