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Old 05-01-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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This is absolutely hilarious; the liberals in Hollywood complaining about the moronic gun laws passed that will of course accomplish nothing, but cater to the clueless left wing who actually think that gun laws will have an impact on mass shootings like Newtown.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/02/ny...n.html?hp&_r=0

Studios Fret That New York’s Gun Laws Could Hamper Film Production

"Industry workers say that they need to use real weapons for verisimilitude, that it would be impractical to try to manufacture fake weapons that could fire blanks, and that the entertainment industry should not be penalized accidentally by a law intended as a response to mass shootings.

“Weapons are part of our history as a culture as humans,” said Ryder Washburn, vice president of the Specialists, a leading supplier of firearms for productions that is based in Manhattan. “To tell stories, you need them.”"
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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They are not being penalized accidentally any more than the overwhelming vast majority of law abiding citizens are and as a generalization it seems that Hollywood is by and large O.K. with that.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Walton County, GA
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Golly, their own "stars" promoted gun control. Now they want special treatment.



Those production companies wont be seeing much of my movie going cash anymore.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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I also found it interesting that this awful "legislation" was passed in two days without public review or debates in either house.

Now THAT is liberal democratic government at its finest
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:54 AM
 
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I'd pay to see an action flick that didn't have any gun violence or explosions. Just to see a surrealist kind of film.
Hollywood is insane if they think they can have any kind of message against gun violence. They're promoted it for far too long, forever, and have made too much money doing so.
How about a slasher flick where instead of murdering people the psycho hits them in the face with a cream pie or tickles them?
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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"Die Hard 7"

With a terminal disease
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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I'd pay to see an action flick that didn't have any gun violence or explosions. Just to see a surrealist kind of film.
Hollywood is insane if they think they can have any kind of message against gun violence. They're promoted it for far too long, forever, and have made too much money doing so.
How about a slasher flick where instead of murdering people the psycho hits them in the face with a cream pie or tickles them?
unfortunately vaudeville is no more.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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This is absolutely hilarious; the liberals in Hollywood complaining about the moronic gun laws passed that will of course accomplish nothing, but cater to the clueless left wing who actually think that gun laws will have an impact on mass shootings like Newtown.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/02/ny...n.html?hp&_r=0

Studios Fret That New York’s Gun Laws Could Hamper Film Production

"Industry workers say that they need to use real weapons for verisimilitude, that it would be impractical to try to manufacture fake weapons that could fire blanks, and that the entertainment industry should not be penalized accidentally by a law intended as a response to mass shootings.

“Weapons are part of our history as a culture as humans,” said Ryder Washburn, vice president of the Specialists, a leading supplier of firearms for productions that is based in Manhattan. “To tell stories, you need them.”"
There's nothing new about this "problem".
For decades now Hollywood has been as unable to buy weapons for their films, as the rest of us have been. It takes very fancy licenses, background checks, and more paperwork than you'd believe possible, to get to where you can buy a machine gun, mortar, or other such device.

There have been films made, where they producer hired some machinists and gunsmiths, handed them blank metal blocks, and manufactured a machine gun from scratch (sort of like building a house by first growing the trees and mining the metal ore), using it in the film, and then chopping it up or melting it down. All to avoid any possibility of "procuring a weapon in interstate commerce" that most gun laws are based on nowadays, or being called a "weapons manufacturer" or "gun dealer".

What, has some new law made all that a tiny bit tougher to do now?

Aw, gee.

Sort of makes you wonder how all this could be necessary, in a country where the highest law of the land says flatly that your right to own and carry guns shall not be infringed, eh?

Know what's even zanier? Remember that bit about "guns that have been in interstate commerce"? You find that in nearly every so-called "gun control" law. And the reson for it, of course, is that the Constitution says the govt can regulate interstate commerce. So the paranoid gun-haters throw that in evey chance they get, in the belief that it gives them the authority to restrict guns, provided they havve been "in interstate commerce".

Well, guess what. It was true under the original Constitution that, though that doccument (before the 2nd amendment was added) gave govt no authority to regulate guns, that "commerce clasue" DID inded provide the loophole the gun-haters were looking for.

The bad news was that, as soon as the 2nd amendment was added a few years after the original Constitution was ratified, the 2nd amendment took away that loophole.

Amendment CHANGE the document they are being added to. That's why they're called amendments. And the 2nd amendment changed the part that said the govt had the power to regulate commerce among the several states, to "shall have the power to regulate commerce among the several states EXCEPT WHERE SUCH REGULATION INFRINGES THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP ANDS BEAR ARMS."

The gun-haters have been hoping for hundreds of years, that no one would realize the 2nd amendment had that effect. They've been hoping people would think the Commerce Clause (which was ratified in 1789) overrode the 2nd amendment which was ratified two years LATER. But in fact, of course, it's the amendment that overrides the original Commerce Clause.

People have been thinking all that time that the Commerce Clause was somehow not modified by the 2nd amendment. That's a silly idea, though. What do you think amendments do? THEY AMEND WHAT CAME BEFORE.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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There's nothing new about this "problem".
For decades now Hollywood has been as unable to buy weapons for their films, as the rest of us have been. It takes very fancy licenses, background checks, and more paperwork than you'd believe possible, to get to where you can buy a machine gun, mortar, or other such device.
This isn't even a problem any longer. It's all computer generated now.
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