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Old 05-08-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Depends on who you ask, I suppose. There's racism and then there's perceived racism. For instance, we had to let two workers go recently, both black. The security guard was from NYC and the nurse's aide was from Trinidad. They were both rude and incompetent. The aide was rough with the patients and the guard was sexually suggestive to the staff. They were given plenty of warnings, but they told whoever would listen that people were picking on them because they were black. The very concept is absurd, as about half the staff working there are black.
So, if you were to ask those two if there's any racism, they would holler yes.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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Excellent post. Too many people fail to understand freedom. They think it's just freedom to do what they approve of.

We don't need the First Amendment to talk nicely to each other. We don't need the First Amendment to say "hello" and "good day". The First Amendment is there to protect our right to say things that others disagree with or things that might be offensive. Otherwise, there is no need for that part of the First amendment.
I thought I'd re-introduce this thread given the events of the last couple of days and chose this particular quote to do so due to both the title of the thread and some comments about the freedom of speech thing that has been bandied about and over hyped for years.

Associated Press has the freedom of press right up to the point that some yahoo in one of the U.S.'s MANY overlapping (and very often inept) agencies of security thinks there MIGHT be a security issue then individual PHONE RECORDS are seized.

In the U.S. you have the freedom to belong to the political party of your choice, the very cornerstone of the practice of democracy, right up to the point of belonging to the party in opposition to the current government, then you're gonna get hammered by whatever agency of that government is ordered to give you special attention, like the IRS for example.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:26 AM
 
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A pretty self-explanatory thread. This was inspired by my fiancee, who is a Canadian citizen. We were discussing the political views of many American conservatives and she mentioned that many may feel that Canadians exchange their "freedoms". What do you think?
Just "less".
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong
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A pretty self-explanatory thread. This was inspired by my fiancee, who is a Canadian citizen. We were discussing the political views of many American conservatives and she mentioned that many may feel that Canadians exchange their "freedoms". What do you think?
Are Canadians less free than... Whom?

Surely you are not suggesting a comparison the emerging Police state to their south
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:45 AM
 
Location: North America
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A pretty self-explanatory thread. This was inspired by my fiancee, who is a Canadian citizen. We were discussing the political views of many American conservatives and she mentioned that many may feel that Canadians exchange their "freedoms". What do you think?

I don't know, since I don't live in Canada.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:48 AM
 
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A pretty self-explanatory thread. This was inspired by my fiancee, who is a Canadian citizen. We were discussing the political views of many American conservatives and she mentioned that many may feel that Canadians exchange their "freedoms". What do you think?
Canadians are light years freer than United Staters are.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:59 AM
 
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Are Canadians less free than... Whom?

Surely you are not suggesting a comparison the emerging Police state to their south
Well, that's exactly what all the indications are at present.

The Benghazi fiasco, where people, who were not part of the military, but were intimately involved with the daily running of that diplomatic mission have been threatened with prosecution if they reveal any details of that particular terrible screw-up.

Here we are many months on and they are now just getting wound up enough to come forward and only because there are some chinks showing in the administrations armour.

One would be hard pressed to defend the superiority of any right to free-speech or Freedom in general, regardless of what a Consitutional document says, if they have to risk everything to exercise them..

You have all the rights in the world EXCEPT those you attempt to exercise by telling the truth to the public in opposition to Whitehouse directives.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:09 AM
 
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Just "less".

Less population, rationalized military, fewer Casinos, fewer murders, WAY less per-capita incarcerated, less people of the world declaring us their avowed enemy, Way smaller percentage of our population sucking the welfare teat, ..........those kinds of less?

C'mon Robin you can do better than a one word response. In all things anti-Canadian you're usually the most verbose on here.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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Don't Be "Surprised" by Kinder Eggs: Seizures Double - CBP.gov



Yea, these eggs are dangerous and should be confiscated.

...Yet it's perfectly okay for a kid to play with a gun.
Why do Neo Progs always do this? You create a false narrative that no one supports, and then argue against it.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong
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You have all the rights in the world EXCEPT those you attempt to exercise by telling the truth to the public in opposition to Whitehouse directives.
Actually, it seems that a hoary Bargain has been made:

People GIVE AWAY their Freedoms, in return for the PROMISE they will be safe.
But then the elites fail to protection them as promised - But it is too late,
once people start to see through the game
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