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Old 05-05-2013, 10:25 PM
 
Location: TX
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The harm is that ot doesn't take a semester to teach a child how to feed, clothe and wash a baby. After that..what are you teaching?
Couldn't possibly type it all here; it would take too long But you can find the answer you seek in many bookstores. There are TONS of things to learn about taking care of babies, and they're better learned before you get pregnant and especially before the kid's born.

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Fine arts? Creative outlets keep children inspired...and these are resources that some or many parents may not be inclined in. It's advantageous for a child. Arts, IMO, have tremedous value.

Foreign language should ABSOLUTELY be mandatory....especially when we are fast approaching a 40% Latino population with a large portion of which refuses to learn English.
Fair enough about fine arts, but I think it's highly unlikely someone will actually NEED to know Spanish here in the U.S. to do well for themselves. Those who refuse to learn English are the ones to worry about.

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Meaning...relieving parents of their accountability is not the answer. It's a horrible answer.
Good thing no one's suggesting that.

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Values are descriptive, not prescriptive. No matter where somebody extracts their values from, they are justified in having them. In regards to homosexuality, the idea of being against it for many or even most doesn't stem from "nothing"...but let's say it did.
Yes, let's. Or else, let's identify just what knowledge the anti-gay arguments stems from. It's either something real or something imagined (aka NOTHING), after all.

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Do you like cauliflower? I hate it....but do I have to have a logical basis for it? No, I don't.
You don't HAVE to do anything but live and die, same as everyone else. But you must know that when you voice an opinion on what someone else should be allowed to do, it falls to you to either explain why you feel that way or be swiftly ignored.

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Me running around naked isn't hurting anybody...why can't I do it? Why can't I view porn on the television in my dentists lobby? It isn't "hurting" anybody.
I refuse to discuss that here beyond saying there is evidence to show a power of media influence as well as negative influence from pornography itself. But I'm glad to see you are asking WHY. We who support gay rights are asking why NOT, and have yet to get an answer that's verifiably correct.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:28 PM
 
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Ah. So how is that a gay agenda?
If a girls is forced to ASK another girl to kiss.
the question is
how is that not part of a gay agenda?
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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so far since this morning there is not one workable reason in why, these teachers and Supt's should not be charged and tossed into jail.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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Ah, I see. I guess there's also a math agenda, a science agenda, a geography agenda and a English literature agenda.
yeah to minimize the amount they teach those subjects, to make sure they have time for the more important work like social engineering.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:43 PM
 
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History. Now I understand why you hate that class, though. You see, we've learned from history (well, most of us anyway) that it does no good to discriminate against people without damn good reason which must also be true. We learned that this can lead to needless violence which will surely affect both the minority AND the majority, destroy far more than it builds. I am of course speaking of racism and the bigotry we saw in Nazi Germany.
This class will lead to hatred that accorded in NAZI Germany!

Gay-Straight Alliances are the modern day equivalent of the Hitler Youth

all those who oppose them are undesirables and have to be "reeducated".
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:44 PM
 
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#1 because MOST sex ed type classes are separated by gender.
this was based on a so called "anti-bullying" bill.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:46 PM
 
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NO ONE said homosexual UNTIL the Christian news site got a hold of the story.
one girl asking another girl to kiss is?

read the bill schools are required to teach about sexual orientations.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:55 PM
 
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Couldn't possibly type it all here; it would take too long But you can find the answer you seek in many bookstores. There are TONS of things to learn about taking care of babies, and they're better learned before you get pregnant and especially before the kid's born.
Sure, a few things. But nothing that requires a whole semester of classes.



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Fair enough about fine arts, but I think it's highly unlikely someone will actually NEED to know Spanish here in the U.S. to do well for themselves. Those who refuse to learn English are the ones to worry about.
I disagree. They teach ESL at the college level now. That's right, "higher education" institutions are teaching English as a SECOND language. If that isn't indicative of a regressing education system, I don't know what is.



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Good thing no one's suggesting that.
Well, if you acknowledge parents suck...and they require state level intervention...what does that suggest?



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Yes, let's. Or else, let's identify just what knowledge the anti-gay arguments stems from. It's either something real or something imagined (aka NOTHING), after all.
I already went over that..with the procreation example. Totally logical.



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You don't HAVE to do anything but live and die, same as everyone else. But you must know that when you voice an opinion on what someone else should be allowed to do, it falls to you to either explain why you feel that way or be swiftly ignored.
No, actually, I HAVE to live under a FEDERAL LAW. Outside of the Constitution, which is horribly outdated and it's words have been held hostage until they scream whatever the hands that squeeze it wish, there is no basis for the notion that a homosexual couple is on equal footing as a heterosexual couple.

The fact is the only explanation needed to be stated is that they believe sexual relations are to be between woman and man. It doesn't need to go further than that.



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I refuse to discuss that here beyond saying there is evidence to show a power of media influence as well as negative influence from pornography itself. But I'm glad to see you are asking WHY. We who support gay rights are asking why NOT, and have yet to get an answer that's verifiably correct.
So if you believe in the power of media influence...then would you agree that indoctrination and propaganda in schools can influence sexual orientation?
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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so far since this morning there is not one workable reason in why, these teachers and Supt's should not be charged and tossed into jail.

..Because they did nothing wrong.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:35 AM
 
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so far since this morning there is not one workable reason in why, these teachers and Supt's should not be charged and tossed into jail.
So far you have provided no reason they should.
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