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Old 05-04-2013, 09:34 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Why do old people say ''inappropriate, non-politically correct'' things?
Because we grew up in a free country where truth and personal rights
were more important than trying to please others, sugar coat wrongs,
and censor our thoughts and words. We don't care what's 'PC', we''ll
think for ourselves. PC is censorship, a turd has no clean end.

Stop trying to change your grandfather, learn from him. He has seen
things that will never be seen again. Revere him, honor him, because
of him you exist.

 
Old 05-04-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Lucario View Post
What does "not politically correct" mean? Should it be OK for him to be racist, sexist and homophobic because he fought in a war?
How about he's old and tired and you have no idea what his brain is going through.....this happens to many war vets, this guy just happens to be white.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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My grandfather is 82 and was born in August 1930, he is Irish, Sicilian, Dutch, German, Spanish(Spain), English and Portuguese descent, he had a tough life and grew up with a very strict father who beat him but my grandfather claimed it was tough love and he's happy he didn't grow up like a "pansy", he grew up in The Bronx in the 30s and 40s, he was a tall(6 foot 2 1/2 barefoot which is very tall today and back then was abnormally tall), athletic and very good looking guy(he modeled), he had deep golden brown tans, great facial structure, strong jawline, high cheekbones, full lips, very thick wavy medium brown hair and very bright pale ice blue eyes with his now all white hair that still light up a room and it is the first thing he is complimented on today... He was drafted into the US Army in 1951 and old pictures show him with a short black recruit who he jokingly called "jimmy the cricket", he was never a racist, my father told me he stuck up for blacks and was in fist fights over it as a kid, but my grandfather is a Conservative and devout Catholic, he calls Obama the n-word and still says "colored", he grew up in a different time I know. He said he wouldn't like if a female in his family dated a black male. He has had cancer since 2000 and is now a widower, he got more sick around 2010 but is still around, he is now very thin and a few weeks ago he was in the hospital and was heavily sedated, he woke up bugging out about a man in his room speaking Chinese, he called up one of his daughters telling her to "get the ch*nk out of my room!". He calmed down in a few minutes I guess coming off of the drugs, I know this may be from his past war experiences.


One of his grandsons(he has 10 grandchildren) is bisexual, my grandfather can tell by his very feminine voice and my grandfather sometimes grins and looks at one of his sons when he talks but never says anything.


It really makes me sick.. I am 16 and I am very liberal, I don't like racists, homophobes, etc... What can I do to change him before he dies. One time he did defend a black female nurse against an uppity doctor who scolded her for not watching him, he said to the doctor "no she is doing a good job, its a tough job, my wife was a nurse, i respect them".. He then said "west indians are better looking than most n..gro women, they must have white or something else in them", then to top it off said to my cousin who he knows is g-y or whatever "she has a nice rack eh? what? you don't like that? whats the matter with you?" which really upset me he later apologized.

Its funny because I look back on old pictures of him with his Puerto Rican girlfriend in the early 50s showing my grandfather as a tall muscular newly returned GI sitting outside of a 50s style diner, he looked very happy, he eventually married my now deceased grandmother who was very beautiful and of mostly Italian and English descent(he seemed to like women who could tan like him).
sounds like a hero to me! hes been that way for 82 years you are not changing nothing.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by buddy5 View Post
Why do old people say ''inappropriate, non-politically correct'' things?
Because we grew up in a free country where truth and personal rights
were more important than trying to please others, sugar coat wrongs,
and censor our thoughts and words. We don't care what's 'PC', we''ll
think for ourselves. PC is censorship, a turd has no clean end.

Stop trying to change your grandfather, learn from him. He has seen
things that will never be seen again. Revere him, honor him, because
of him you exist.
That is a great point
 
Old 05-04-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TeenLibChik View Post
My grandfather is 82 and was born in August 1930, he is Irish, Sicilian, Dutch, German, Spanish(Spain), English and Portuguese descent, he had a tough life and grew up with a very strict father who beat him but my grandfather claimed it was tough love and he's happy he didn't grow up like a "pansy", he grew up in The Bronx in the 30s and 40s, he was a tall(6 foot 2 1/2 barefoot which is very tall today and back then was abnormally tall), athletic and very good looking guy(he modeled), he had deep golden brown tans, great facial structure, strong jawline, high cheekbones, full lips, very thick wavy medium brown hair and very bright pale ice blue eyes with his now all white hair that still light up a room and it is the first thing he is complimented on today... He was drafted into the US Army in 1951 and old pictures show him with a short black recruit who he jokingly called "jimmy the cricket", he was never a racist, my father told me he stuck up for blacks and was in fist fights over it as a kid, but my grandfather is a Conservative and devout Catholic, he calls Obama the n-word and still says "colored", he grew up in a different time I know. He said he wouldn't like if a female in his family dated a black male. He has had cancer since 2000 and is now a widower, he got more sick around 2010 but is still around, he is now very thin and a few weeks ago he was in the hospital and was heavily sedated, he woke up bugging out about a man in his room speaking Chinese, he called up one of his daughters telling her to "get the ch*nk out of my room!". He calmed down in a few minutes I guess coming off of the drugs, I know this may be from his past war experiences.


One of his grandsons(he has 10 grandchildren) is bisexual, my grandfather can tell by his very feminine voice and my grandfather sometimes grins and looks at one of his sons when he talks but never says anything.


It really makes me sick.. I am 16 and I am very liberal, I don't like racists, homophobes, etc... What can I do to change him before he dies. One time he did defend a black female nurse against an uppity doctor who scolded her for not watching him, he said to the doctor "no she is doing a good job, its a tough job, my wife was a nurse, i respect them".. He then said "west indians are better looking than most n..gro women, they must have white or something else in them", then to top it off said to my cousin who he knows is g-y or whatever "she has a nice rack eh? what? you don't like that? whats the matter with you?" which really upset me he later apologized.

Its funny because I look back on old pictures of him with his Puerto Rican girlfriend in the early 50s showing my grandfather as a tall muscular newly returned GI sitting outside of a 50s style diner, he looked very happy, he eventually married my now deceased grandmother who was very beautiful and of mostly Italian and English descent(he seemed to like women who could tan like him).
The man is 83 years old and he has forgotten more than you have learned or experienced in your few 16 years on this planet. Leave him alone and do NOT try to "change" him, there is no reason for it. From what you have written it sounds like you are the one with the issues not him. When one finally matures they generally look back on their life and think how silly it was to be upset over trivial things. So he said West Indians are better looking, that is his opinion and he noticed a woman's boobs and admired them even though he used words I would not use it was his way of admiring a woman's body that gave him pleasure, once again his opinion.

Leave him alone, do not try to change him, do not "correct" him when he says something you do not like to hear (which by the way in the real world will happen over and over with friends, family and strangers), and give him the respect he deserves.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 10:17 PM
 
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Sounds like a made up story.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 10:20 PM
 
Location: southern california
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u r right his comments were inappropriate. they were inappropriate back then they still are. he had some restraint back then but less now. he is a little older than me but not much. when we get to the end of the journey we care less about what others think. we tend to think out loud. try to forgive.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by Lucario View Post
What does "not politically correct" mean? Should it be OK for him to be racist, sexist and homophobic because he fought in a war?

Liberals don't hate heterosexual Christian white males?

Since when?



As for Grandpa, I spent an entire month in an ICU fully sedated on propofol and I can attest from personal experience that that stuff causes extremely vivid hallucinations that are indistinguishable from real life experiences.

"Short-term effects of Propofol include mild euphoria, hallucinations, and disinhibition."

http://www.treatment4addiction.com/d...ants/propofol/

Give the old guy a break.

This change in his behavior could simply be the side effects of powerful medications.

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Old 05-04-2013, 10:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TeenLibChik View Post
My grandfather is 82 and was born in August 1930, he is Irish, Sicilian, Dutch, German, Spanish(Spain), English and Portuguese descent, he had a tough life and grew up with a very strict father who beat him but my grandfather claimed it was tough love and he's happy he didn't grow up like a "pansy", he grew up in The Bronx in the 30s and 40s, he was a tall(6 foot 2 1/2 barefoot which is very tall today and back then was abnormally tall), athletic and very good looking guy(he modeled), he had deep golden brown tans, great facial structure, strong jawline, high cheekbones, full lips, very thick wavy medium brown hair and very bright pale ice blue eyes with his now all white hair that still light up a room and it is the first thing he is complimented on today... He was drafted into the US Army in 1951 and old pictures show him with a short black recruit who he jokingly called "jimmy the cricket", he was never a racist, my father told me he stuck up for blacks and was in fist fights over it as a kid, but my grandfather is a Conservative and devout Catholic, he calls Obama the n-word and still says "colored", he grew up in a different time I know. He said he wouldn't like if a female in his family dated a black male. He has had cancer since 2000 and is now a widower, he got more sick around 2010 but is still around, he is now very thin and a few weeks ago he was in the hospital and was heavily sedated, he woke up bugging out about a man in his room speaking Chinese, he called up one of his daughters telling her to "get the ch*nk out of my room!". He calmed down in a few minutes I guess coming off of the drugs, I know this may be from his past war experiences.


One of his grandsons(he has 10 grandchildren) is bisexual, my grandfather can tell by his very feminine voice and my grandfather sometimes grins and looks at one of his sons when he talks but never says anything.


It really makes me sick.. I am 16 and I am very liberal, I don't like racists, homophobes, etc... What can I do to change him before he dies. One time he did defend a black female nurse against an uppity doctor who scolded her for not watching him, he said to the doctor "no she is doing a good job, its a tough job, my wife was a nurse, i respect them".. He then said "west indians are better looking than most n..gro women, they must have white or something else in them", then to top it off said to my cousin who he knows is g-y or whatever "she has a nice rack eh? what? you don't like that? whats the matter with you?" which really upset me he later apologized.

Its funny because I look back on old pictures of him with his Puerto Rican girlfriend in the early 50s showing my grandfather as a tall muscular newly returned GI sitting outside of a 50s style diner, he looked very happy, he eventually married my now deceased grandmother who was very beautiful and of mostly Italian and English descent(he seemed to like women who could tan like him).
Does he post online, he sounds familiar. Take away his computer and spend more time with him.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Originally Posted by TeenLibChik View Post
My grandfather is 82 and was born in August 1930, he is Irish, Sicilian, Dutch, German, Spanish(Spain), English and Portuguese descent, he had a tough life and grew up with a very strict father who beat him but my grandfather claimed it was tough love and he's happy he didn't grow up like a "pansy", he grew up in The Bronx in the 30s and 40s, he was a tall(6 foot 2 1/2 barefoot which is very tall today and back then was abnormally tall), athletic and very good looking guy(he modeled), he had deep golden brown tans, great facial structure, strong jawline, high cheekbones, full lips, very thick wavy medium brown hair and very bright pale ice blue eyes with his now all white hair that still light up a room and it is the first thing he is complimented on today... He was drafted into the US Army in 1951 and old pictures show him with a short black recruit who he jokingly called "jimmy the cricket", he was never a racist, my father told me he stuck up for blacks and was in fist fights over it as a kid, but my grandfather is a Conservative and devout Catholic, he calls Obama the n-word and still says "colored", he grew up in a different time I know. He said he wouldn't like if a female in his family dated a black male. He has had cancer since 2000 and is now a widower, he got more sick around 2010 but is still around, he is now very thin and a few weeks ago he was in the hospital and was heavily sedated, he woke up bugging out about a man in his room speaking Chinese, he called up one of his daughters telling her to "get the ch*nk out of my room!". He calmed down in a few minutes I guess coming off of the drugs, I know this may be from his past war experiences.


One of his grandsons(he has 10 grandchildren) is bisexual, my grandfather can tell by his very feminine voice and my grandfather sometimes grins and looks at one of his sons when he talks but never says anything.


It really makes me sick.. I am 16 and I am very liberal, I don't like racists, homophobes, etc... What can I do to change him before he dies. One time he did defend a black female nurse against an uppity doctor who scolded her for not watching him, he said to the doctor "no she is doing a good job, its a tough job, my wife was a nurse, i respect them".. He then said "west indians are better looking than most n..gro women, they must have white or something else in them", then to top it off said to my cousin who he knows is g-y or whatever "she has a nice rack eh? what? you don't like that? whats the matter with you?" which really upset me he later apologized.

Its funny because I look back on old pictures of him with his Puerto Rican girlfriend in the early 50s showing my grandfather as a tall muscular newly returned GI sitting outside of a 50s style diner, he looked very happy, he eventually married my now deceased grandmother who was very beautiful and of mostly Italian and English descent(he seemed to like women who could tan like him).
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