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Old 05-05-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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My wife has a small business and sometimes ships things around the country. One time she was sending something to that part of Brooklyn and I told her she'd better insure it as it was likely it wouldn't get there. Sure enough, it got "lost" and was never delivered.
The highest amount of Postal Theft is by postal workers.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:37 PM
 
Location: southern california
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If the mailman doesn't show they "miss [their] checks from the state".

Only in America. I think the union clause was "hail", not "hail of bullets".
not only in america in france if you mug me u dont get your mail.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:39 PM
 
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My grandfather was a postal carrier in Brooklyn (I think actually Brownsville - or Flatbush, where they lived?), and was murdered on the job in 1967. He was actually the FIRST postal worker killed in the line of duty, and some years back my father was contacted for permission to put him on a stamp. Not sure if that ever happened, but we were honored they asked.

Anyway, my point is that it's ALWAYS been a dangerous place to deliver mail! Not sure what the solution is, since I think even the poor in dangerous communities deserve mail delivery... and I imagine even my father would agree, despite the tragedy it caused for his/our family.
Sorry for your loss gizmo. My nephew was gunned down outside a convenience store. That doesn't make me want to close all convenience stores though. Nor does it make me want to ban all weapons. There are bad people everywhere. Need to stop over analyzing these people, and just hang them if found guilty.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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The highest amount of Postal Theft is by postal workers.
Proof?

(not necessarily doubting you, I just think proof is needed if you're going to throw out such an accusation)
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Sorry for your loss gizmo. My nephew was gunned down outside a convenience store. That doesn't make me want to close all convenience stores though. Nor does it make me want to ban all weapons. There are bad people everywhere. Need to stop over analyzing these people, and just hang them.
Exactly... and thank you. Unfortunately, my grandfather's killers (it was a whole gang) were never brought to justice.

Oh, and I wasn't even alive yet (born in '76), so they also robbed me of ever meeting him. I just like to think they've met up with karma since then, and hopefully in a BAD way.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: California
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I can see places where postmen, regardless of their oath, wouldn't go. I wouldn't blame them. I don't think they get hazard pay.

There are some areas that are lost causes. We had one neighborhood in my area that was severely run down, unrmanaged, unkempt and dangerous. Somewhere along the line the good intentions (low income housing) were given up on and everyone involved had washed their hands of the place. It's where pizza delivery dared not go. Eventually it was razed and new construction (higher end low income housing...wth? haha) went up. Unless it is managed by someone who sits on it 24/7 the same thing will happen I'm sure.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:49 PM
 
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This reminds me of Goodfellas when Paulie and the boys stuck the postman's head in the oven after beating him up for delivering that truancy notice.

That was a true story, and ironically, also in Brownsville.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Sort of off track. I read about a doctor serving his internship in London (this was before WW2) and at times he had to make house calls (obviously a long time ago). In the worst part of the city. So bad that the police wouldn't go there after midnight. All he had was his distinctive doctors bag that everyone knew and recognized. He said he went thru some really scary places late at night, people always backed off and let him pass without any problems.
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Old 05-05-2013, 02:00 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I can see places where postmen, regardless of their oath, wouldn't go. I wouldn't blame them. I don't think they get hazard pay.
When I delivered pizza in Stockton (look it up, for those outside of CA), we had a giant X through the worst part of town - and if anyone from that neighborhood called for delivery, we'd tell them "we don't service your area, so it will be pick-up only." But that was pizza, which isn't exactly a necessity in life... okay, maybe sometimes it is. Mail service, on the other hand, should be available to everyone if possible. Perhaps hazard pay isn't such a bad idea? Hmmm.
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Old 05-05-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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They should just hold the mail at the Post Office and residents can pick it up there.


Postal workers too scared to deliver mail in crime-ridden Brooklyn neighborhood, Brownsville - NYPOST.com
Good. If they want their mail, let them pick it up at the post office.

Mail delivery is a priveledge, not a right. If you or your neighbors are threatening the mail man, you probably do not deserve the convenience of having at home mail delivery.
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