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When it comes to climate change deniers and conservatives who think it is hogwash....they only deny the reason, right?
Regardless of what they believe is causing global warming or if there's any way we humans can help slow it down....every single conservative alive does acknowledge and understand that the atmosphere IS getting warmer and that CO2 levels ARE rising....right???
Once the original atmosphere stabilized it was N2, CO2, Methane and Ammonium Hydrides.
The Ammonium Hydrides precipitated out in a matter of years, literally. We're talking less than two decades.
The Methane was gone in about four decades.
It's totally impossible for Methane to exist in any large quantity for any length of time. It's called the photo-electric effect, and UV-A, UV-B and UV-C break down Methane in no time flat.
That's why Methane is measured in parts per Billion instead of parts per Million, because Methane can never exist in parts per Million due to the photo-electric effect.
So, your atmosphere was N2 and CO2 for 2.5 Billion years until the Great Oxygenation Event. That means Hansen is wrong, as evidenced by the fact that we're here.
Then organisms engaging in photosynthesis release free Oxygen into the sea, which bonds with reactive metals and minerals like Iron, Manganese and Phosphorus. That precipitates out and forms bands. You can see bands of Iron and Manganese in Wisconsin, Minnesota, parts of Australia and parts of South Africa.
After the metals and minerals precipitate out, the sea absorbs Oxygen until it saturated, then it starts leaching into the atmosphere where it bonds with exposed reactive metals and minerals on the land mass, and when that is complete, Oxygen starts accumulating in the atmosphere.
So, for about 3.5 Billion years, there was more CO2 than O2 in the atmosphere, which means Hansen and his minions are just plain wrong.
Soil sediments will also show the volume of CO2 in the atmosphere. Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3) is a good way gauge CO2 levels, and there are other methods.
We know that 500 Million years ago, the CO2 levels were 20x higher than now, and that persisted for Millions of years.
So, Hansen is a liar. The runaway greenhouse effect is just a scare tactic.
The evidence shows CO2 levels have been continually declining in like a stair-case effect. CO2 levels dropped, the increased, but not as high as they were, then drop again and increase, but not as high as they were.
For example, 200 Million years ago, CO2 levels were 4-5 times higher than now.
The end is when the Sun's outer layer swells up and probably engulfs Earth, but long before that happens, I believe Earth will be a dead planet, much like Mars, because all the CO2 will eventually be locked up in sediments. That won't happen for another 500 Million to 1 Billion years, but that's probably what's going to happen.
Once the original atmosphere stabilized it was N2, CO2, Methane and Ammonium Hydrides.
The Ammonium Hydrides precipitated out in a matter of years, literally. We're talking less than two decades.
The Methane was gone in about four decades.
It's totally impossible for Methane to exist in any large quantity for any length of time. It's called the photo-electric effect, and UV-A, UV-B and UV-C break down Methane in no time flat.
That's why Methane is measured in parts per Billion instead of parts per Million, because Methane can never exist in parts per Million due to the photo-electric effect.
So, your atmosphere was N2 and CO2 for 2.5 Billion years until the Great Oxygenation Event. That means Hansen is wrong, as evidenced by the fact that we're here.
Then organisms engaging in photosynthesis release free Oxygen into the sea, which bonds with reactive metals and minerals like Iron, Manganese and Phosphorus. That precipitates out and forms bands. You can see bands of Iron and Manganese in Wisconsin, Minnesota, parts of Australia and parts of South Africa.
After the metals and minerals precipitate out, the sea absorbs Oxygen until it saturated, then it starts leaching into the atmosphere where it bonds with exposed reactive metals and minerals on the land mass, and when that is complete, Oxygen starts accumulating in the atmosphere.
So, for about 3.5 Billion years, there was more CO2 than O2 in the atmosphere, which means Hansen and his minions are just plain wrong.
Soil sediments will also show the volume of CO2 in the atmosphere. Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3) is a good way gauge CO2 levels, and there are other methods.
We know that 500 Million years ago, the CO2 levels were 20x higher than now, and that persisted for Millions of years.
So, Hansen is a liar. The runaway greenhouse effect is just a scare tactic.
The evidence shows CO2 levels have been continually declining in like a stair-case effect. CO2 levels dropped, the increased, but not as high as they were, then drop again and increase, but not as high as they were.
For example, 200 Million years ago, CO2 levels were 4-5 times higher than now.
The end is when the Sun's outer layer swells up and probably engulfs Earth, but long before that happens, I believe Earth will be a dead planet, much like Mars, because all the CO2 will eventually be locked up in sediments. That won't happen for another 500 Million to 1 Billion years, but that's probably what's going to happen.
You have provided a beautiful, very brief history of the composition of the earth's atmosphere over time. However, the AGW is not at all interested in the fact that CO2 levels were 10X higher in the past far before the arrival of man, and the earth flourished.
Unfortunately, the best long term record of climate IS THE FOSSIL RECORD. Since it dispels the concept of AGW, it is conveniently ignored in favor of temp measurements over the last 400 years with four different temperature measurements in multiple locations. That is what we call "bad science", but in today's world, it is accepted as the Gospel.
Man in the future will look upon this era with great amusement, just as we chuckle about the use of bleeding and cathartics 300 years ago, and wonder how people in this time were so easily duped.
The IPCC is worse than left wing, it's predominately postmodern... that NOAA and GISS bought into that bulls**t will always be a dark stain on their reputations.
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LOL. I'm supposed to take your word for it? I've seen absolutely idiotic stuff at the NASA site.
So share with us where you get your climate information since you don't like scientific organizations. I would also like to see the "idiotic stuff" on the NASA site.
What were the levels during the Jurrasic period when the earth was lush and there was great bio diversity?
Pretty miserable place to live at that time unless you were a lizard. How many people inhabited the earth at that time, did they rely on glaciers as a water source, did they have to worry about sea level rise or rely on farming.
No one is arguing that CO2 levels were not higher in the past.
This information should not be considered an "other controversy", but it is because so many people do not believe in basic science.
What many climate researchers have long sought is a plan to keep levels of carbon dioxide at 350 ppm in the atmosphere, but we've reached a level not seen in millions of years, and it will continue to rise. Instead of working on solutions, we pretend the problem does not exist because of the enormous wealth and influence of the fossil fuel industry. It has corrupted both halls of Congress, while pumping out as much disinformation in the media as it does carbon dioxide.
So share with us where you get your climate information since you don't like scientific organizations. I would also like to see the "idiotic stuff" on the NASA site.
The IPCC is not a scientific organization... it's a political organization.
NOAA and GISS became worse than activists when they willingly fell in line with the IPCC's post-normal science bulls**t.
The whole CO2 thing is silly anyway! Trees NEED CO2...that's SCIENCE!
Volcanoes push out more CO2 than we EVER could...that's also science.
In the grand scheme of things, we are insignificant...we can only pollute our local areas like the natives did. We aren't migratory so the land cannot rejunvenatefor us to come back to it.
We need to manage it locally, but to say we are changing the climate is ignoring SCIENCE!
The climate has gone through multiple highs and lows without us...why do fools believe it won't continue to do that whether we're here or not?
I'm confused, what scientists were around 3 million years ago to get accurate readings?
The earth leaves millions of years of evidence behind, science provides the means to extract it and analyze it.
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