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Old 05-22-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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Why does data need adjustment? To get the result desired.

 
Old 05-22-2019, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Originally Posted by TreeBeard View Post
Who the hell wants to live in a hot and humid hellhole that the Jurassic period was except Deniers?
Consider that outside the atmosphere, the sun's energy is 1300 W / sq meter, whereas at sea level, inside that 'toasty' atmosphere it is only 1000 W/ sq meter. 30% was reflected back by the 'heat trapping' atmosphere. In fact, the atmosphere keeps Earth cooler than nearby bodies in a vacuum.

- - - TEMPERATURE DATA - - -
● Earth max : (134.33°F)
● Space station max : (250°F)
● Lunar surface max : (242.33°F)

Zero atmosphere = higher maximum temperature
How does a “heat trapping”atmosphere stay colder?

And if heat was being 'trapped,' why hasn't the maximum temperature gone up to a new record level?

Is the “Greenhouse effect” like a refrigerator “trapping heat”?

There is no "heating up" or trapping of heat by the atmosphere when it is COOLING the planet. And since there is no conduction nor convection of heat in a vacuum, that leaves RADIATION. The atmosphere is radiating / reflecting back energy, that COOLS the planet.

More Facts in support - - -
Earth Albedo : 0.3
Moon Albedo : 0.11


THERE IS NO 'GREENHOUSE EFFECT' STORING HEAT IN THE ATMOSPHERE.
NEVER WAS.
THAT FACT IS WHAT THE ALARMISTS DENY.
So-called 'greenhouse gases' help COOL the planet.


Still believe their consensus on 'settled science'?
Let me lead you to a KARBONITE SITE:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-...orrelation.htm
... "A tiny amount of CO2 and other greenhouse gases, like methane and water vapour, keep the Earth's surface 30°Celsius (54°F) warmer than it would be without them.”
WAIT - the Earth with ‘heat trapping’ atmosphere is 108° F cooler than the Moon without an atmosphere. And they are claiming that trace gases are keeping Earth’s surface 30°Celsius (54°F) warmer despite the atmosphere keeping us 116°F cooler than the Space Station right outside of Earth’s atmosphere.

HOAX, FOLKS
 
Old 05-22-2019, 03:30 PM
 
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So, who/what was here 3 millions years ago to make that level so high?





Sometimes you global warming/cooling people ruin your own argument with the link you provide and have no clue that you even did it....
 
Old 05-22-2019, 04:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
So, who/what was here 3 millions years ago to make that level so high?





Sometimes you global warming/cooling people ruin your own argument with the link you provide and have no clue that you even did it....
That and the high CO2 level was during an ice age.
 
Old 05-22-2019, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
Consider that outside the atmosphere, the sun's energy is 1300 W / sq meter, whereas at sea level, inside that 'toasty' atmosphere it is only 1000 W/ sq meter. 30% was reflected back by the 'heat trapping' atmosphere. In fact, the atmosphere keeps Earth cooler than nearby bodies in a vacuum.

- - - TEMPERATURE DATA - - -
● Earth max : (134.33°F)
● Space station max : (250°F)
● Lunar surface max : (242.33°F)

Zero atmosphere = higher maximum temperature
How does a “heat trapping”atmosphere stay colder?

And if heat was being 'trapped,' why hasn't the maximum temperature gone up to a new record level?

Is the “Greenhouse effect” like a refrigerator “trapping heat”?

There is no "heating up" or trapping of heat by the atmosphere when it is COOLING the planet. And since there is no conduction nor convection of heat in a vacuum, that leaves RADIATION. The atmosphere is radiating / reflecting back energy, that COOLS the planet.

More Facts in support - - -
Earth Albedo : 0.3
Moon Albedo : 0.11


THERE IS NO 'GREENHOUSE EFFECT' STORING HEAT IN THE ATMOSPHERE.
NEVER WAS.
THAT FACT IS WHAT THE ALARMISTS DENY.
So-called 'greenhouse gases' help COOL the planet.


Still believe their consensus on 'settled science'?
Let me lead you to a KARBONITE SITE:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-...orrelation.htm
... "A tiny amount of CO2 and other greenhouse gases, like methane and water vapour, keep the Earth's surface 30°Celsius (54°F) warmer than it would be without them.”
WAIT - the Earth with ‘heat trapping’ atmosphere is 108° F cooler than the Moon without an atmosphere. And they are claiming that trace gases are keeping Earth’s surface 30°Celsius (54°F) warmer despite the atmosphere keeping us 116°F cooler than the Space Station right outside of Earth’s atmosphere.

HOAX, FOLKS


From your link.
Quote:
The amount of CO2 is increasing all the time - we just passed a landmark 400 parts per million concentration of atmospheric CO2, up from around 280ppm before the industrial revolution. That’s a 42.8% increase.
A tiny amount of CO2 and other greenhouse gases, like methane and water vapour, keep the Earth’s surface 30°Celsius (54°F) warmer than it would be without them. We have added 42% more CO2 but that doesn't mean the temperature will go up by 42% too.
There are several reasons why. Doubling the amount of CO2 does not double the greenhouse effect. The way the climate reacts is also complex, and it is difficult to separate the effects of natural changes from man-made ones over short periods of time.
As the amount of man-made CO2 goes up, temperatures do not rise at the same rate. In fact, although estimates vary - climate sensitivity is a hot topic in climate science, if you’ll forgive the pun - the last IPCC report (AR4) described the likely range as between 2 and 4.5 degrees C, for double the amount of CO2 compared to pre-industrial levels.
So far, the average global temperature has gone up by about 0.8 degrees C (1.4 F).
 
Old 05-24-2019, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
From your link.
[Missing the point flag on]
You did note that the author stated that the trace gases are keeping us WARMER, right?
And yet, Earth's atmosphere keeps us COLDER than bodies in a vacuum.
So those trace gases are not "trapping heat" but "reflecting / radiating heat" back into space.
Of course, embracing facts will get one tossed from the Church of the Warming Planet, for blasphemers are not allowed in.
 
Old 05-24-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
[Missing the point flag on]
You did note that the author stated that the trace gases are keeping us WARMER, right?
And yet, Earth's atmosphere keeps us COLDER than bodies in a vacuum.
So those trace gases are not "trapping heat" but "reflecting / radiating heat" back into space.
Of course, embracing facts will get one tossed from the Church of the Warming Planet, for blasphemers are not allowed in.
So why don’t you contact the NASA or something? Obviously they missed something since you know more than them..
 
Old 05-24-2019, 01:28 PM
 
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Some of them cows are eating and starving the earth's vegetation.

Hey! No farts, no growth!

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/stories-...he-environment
 
Old 05-24-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by odanny View Post
This information should not be considered an "other controversy", but it is because so many people do not believe in basic science.

What many climate researchers have long sought is a plan to keep levels of carbon dioxide at 350 ppm in the atmosphere, but we've reached a level not seen in millions of years, and it will continue to rise. Instead of working on solutions, we pretend the problem does not exist because of the enormous wealth and influence of the fossil fuel industry. It has corrupted both halls of Congress, while pumping out as much disinformation in the media as it does carbon dioxide.



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/sc...tone.html?_r=0
I thought my plants were looking a little more lush!
 
Old 05-24-2019, 04:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
So, who/what was here 3 millions years ago to make that level so high?





Sometimes you global warming/cooling people ruin your own argument with the link you provide and have no clue that you even did it....



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