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Your friend just wrote "if you want to work with a job that is unionized, you are forced to join the union". Stop contradicting yourself and your party. Unions create no jobs? I know millions of Americans who are working right now who would disagree with that. You want what China or India has going on? Non union sweatshops, the GOP loves the 1%.
So that's where all that trickle down went. To China and India.
I will never understand why normal wage earning working stiffs like everyone here on CD, hates unions so much. They never launch invectives against corporatists...only against their fellow workers.
Unions are the only entity providing a bulwark against runaway corporate power.
I could understand if some of you were wealthy CEO's or sat on corporate boards, but none of you fit that category.
SMH...I'll never understand it.
ONLY Americans pit people in their own classes against each other among first world nations. No other country has middle class people in large numbers that hate unions.
Balls!!! Every engineer I know ( a bunch) makes 3 times as much as some ditch digger, machine operator, non working hide in the crowd union suck wads....I loved killing a IBEW shop and hireing back no one but hard working team players and at better wages and benes then the electrical workers could offer....I happily awarded a 30 million dollar goverment project to the non union GC ... Not even prevailing wage!!! I'm proud to wear a RTW NOW sticker on my hard hat right next to the project manager sticker.....
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How do you compare benefits of a non unionized employee to a unionized employee if the law demands that you join a union as the condition of employment because its a unionized shop?
YOU said that the law was that unionized employees and non unionized employees have to have the same benefits, so if thats true..
ONCE AGAIN, how do you compare the benefits of a non unionized employee to a unionized employee at a unionized SHOP? HELL YOU BOLDED IT..
Here, let me hold your hand and show you how dumb your argument is once again.
Person A works at unionized company X in a forced unionized state
Person B doesnt want to join the union but wants to work at company X...
HOW THE HELL DO YOU COMPARE THEIR BENEFITS, since person B HAS TO JOIN THE UNION TO WORK THERE.
OMG, dude. I honestly dont know if you are trolling or not but it is getting tiring.
unlike you, i would label you as stupid for simply not understanding me if that is the case.
In the states that you call "unionized" not all workplaces are Union Shops, there are companies that are Open shop.
that pretty much sums up the problem with your argument. I am not and never was talking about union shop companies which is what you are emphasizing in your comment which would make no sense in the first place, that is why i said you must be arguing that all companies in those states were Union shops.
Balls!!! Every engineer I know ( a bunch) makes 3 times as much as some ditch digger, machine operator, non working hide in the crowd union suck wads....I loved killing a IBEW shop and hireing back no one but hard working team players and at better wages and benes then the electrical workers could offer....I happily awarded a 30 million dollar goverment project to the non union GC ... Not even prevailing wage!!! I'm proud to wear a RTW NOW sticker on my hard hat right next to the project manager sticker.....
"Ditch digger", you don't know much, you sound a lot like the fat old man who got his behind handed to him for talking crap at a union rally. Foremen and shop stewards pull in much more than project managers.
OMG, dude. I honestly dont know if you are trolling or not but it is getting tiring.
unlike you, i would label you as stupid for simply not understanding me if that is the case.
In the states that you call "unionized" not all workplaces are Union Shops, there are companies that are Open shop.
that pretty much sums up the problem with your argument. I am not and never was talking about closed shop companies which is what you are emphasizing in your comment which would make no sense in the first place, that is why i said you must be arguing that all companies in those states were Union shops.
There is no talking to them, they are idiots who only hear what Faux News tells them... "UNION THUGS ARE BAD".
I will never understand why normal wage earning working stiffs like everyone here on CD, hates unions so much. They never launch invectives against corporatists...only against their fellow workers.
My guess is they're not really hourly workers and never have to clock in and out every day.
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