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More dispatches from Podunkville. Now, when you see the headline and the picture, what was your immediate guess as to where this is taking place? Massachusetts? Wisconsin? Oregon? No, silly...Oklahoma, of course! It seems the yokels in Gooberville are all in arms as some northern commie godless agitators are trying to take the Ten Commandments off the walls in them there learnin' places! Ma, pa and the rest of thems is fixin' to raise a right commotion over these here liberal interlopers! The time has come to pray to Jay-sus almighty to strike down these pinko atheists and leave us good Chris-tuns alone! Now, we done can't understand every word on them there Ten Commandments, but we does know it says you can't support abortion, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, about it bein' Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve and somethin' else about guns ain't killin' people, people killin' people! Them's the things that make America the country it is until that uppity Negro got elected by promisin' all the blacks new cell phones. What's this world comin' to when a public school can't even have a school prayer or put them Ten Commandments up on the walls?
Frankly your "podunk" comments and the way you chose to write this post are offensive. Your prejudice is overwhelming. Your position, that the Ten Commandments shouldn't be displayed in every classroom, is a valid position. There is no reason to make fun of the people who disagree with you. They may disagree, but they will lose. When the school board meets tonight, they may face a lot of opposition, but they actually have no choice except to take the religious displays down.
There is no such thing legally but this can be taken as an establishment of religion.
That is a BIG stretch.
There are MANY religious pictures and engravings in MANY federal gov't buildings.
The 10 Commandments are IN the SUPREME COURT building.
Anybody with a scintilla of common sense would agreee that if the Founding Fathers thought it was OK back then, it should be OK today.
Many of the Father's attend religious Sunday Services IN THE CAPITOL building for years.
If THE believed in the current "interpenetration" of Separation of Church and State, 1. they would NOT have authorized the service to be held there and 2. THEY would NOT have attended themselves.
OP - My compliments on your post. It presented the absurdity of religious belief over common sense. These should be discussed in a business class as an example of “first we establish an monopoly. Second we jail anyone that dares compete.”
There are MANY religious pictures and engravings in MANY federal gov't buildings.
The 10 Commandments are IN the SUPREME COURT building.
Anybody with a scintilla of common sense would agreee that if the Founding Fathers thought it was OK back then, it should be OK today.
Many of the Father's attend religious Sunday Services IN THE CAPITOL building for years.
If THE believed in the current "interpenetration" of Separation of Church and State, 1. they would NOT have authorized the service to be held there and 2. THEY would NOT have attended themselves.
Seems you are one of the few that does do some research. You are exaclty right. The separation of church and state as it is defined today is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind. Today the words of Thomas Jefferson have been greatly twisted because he actually meant to deny the government to interfere with the freedom of religious speech. Take care.
Here is another issue that people do not realize. Slavery was a lesser of two evils compromise to keep the Constitutional convention going. Not all the Founding Fathers agreed with it and in some cases they did own slaves. In some of those cases that were not allowed free slaves as in the state of Virginia during Washington and Jefferson time. However, they did try to deal with it as best as possible. Many Founding Fathers that approved the Constitution did fight to end slavery. They were very active in such issue. Take care.
Really?
The Civil War decided the issue of states rights in this country forever. Thats why the states are subservient to the federal govt.
The US Supreme Court derives its powers of "judicial review" from a little decision called Marbury v Madison 1803. The constitution article 3 explains the function of the court.
Yes, the Constitution of The United States, Article III, Section. 2.
I have it right here in front of me. Since I am too lazy to type the whole thing, I suggest you read it then return here and explain to us just which part of it gives the Supreme Court the right or obligation to rule on the Constitutionality of a "law" which was NEVER passed by Congress, but is merely sort of implied?
Obviously, in the cases presented, where Congress did NOT pass a law respecting the establishment of a religion, IMO, the Court overstepped their bounds by making a ruling which, in violation of the First Amendment, RESTRICTS the free exercise of a religion!
ESPECIALLY in light of "The Great Commission" (Matthew 28:16-20) wherein Jesus instructed all his disciples to go out and spread the Gospel to all the nations of the world. Many churches today believe this instruction applies now just as it did then, so restricting them in any way is a violation of the First Amendment!
It might behoove one to remember that there are at least THREE major religions which believe in the Old Testament, and thus The Ten Commandments! Christianity is only ONE of them!
Bottom line, the school cannot act on behalf of individuals. The school is a government entity. Freedom of religion is an individual enterprise. The school, a government entity, has no religion, and is not allowed to promote a particular religion. The Ten Commandments is part of the dogma of a religion, and therefore its display is a promotion of a religion. It doesn't matter if it's the dogma of three different religions, or of three hundred. What matters is that the school is a government entity, and as a government entity cannot promote religious dogma. A student in the school has complained. And the school has been threatened with legal action if it doesn't remove the religious displays. As the school really doesn't have a legal argument, a decision by the school board to take this to the courts would be irresponsible, as it would cost the school district money it simply can't afford. And removing the religious displays doesn't take away from any one's individual religious rights. The students and faculty are all free to worship in whatever faith they choose, or not to worship at all.
All of you annoying proselytizers can say whatever you want about any old, new or nonexistent gods. You have First Amendment Right to say and to sell whatever you want. If we can allow “sham-wows” or “sham Christian mega churches” on TV we can allow Moonies or Loonies on the street.
What I will not tolerate is you trying to make your illusion LAW or you taking ANY tax money to aid your cause. I would leave you Ten Commandments on a public school wall as an example of how tyrants take over. Just because these are your rules does not make them mine! Live with it. I can.
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Ten Commandments in Schools
