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Old 05-13-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Do all of you experts believe we are not paying some alfabet soup agent is not reading City-Data as we type? Our government would be negligent if it was not.
No, agents are not reading forums.

What they are doing is data mining and then running that data through software programs which parse and analyze the data and produce statistics, trends, worry flags.

That's how the Obama campaign was run. He had a staff of IT weenies that did data mining and analysis every night and was able to quickly address various groups and knew their concerns.

It's also used on the web to "personalize" your ads based on what you've looked at before.
Amazon uses that technology to do their "May we also suggest" when you shop online.

Predictive analytics is another field that uses the data to predict what might happen.

Do a google on "Big data and the government".
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:09 PM
 
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No, agents are not reading forums.

What they are doing is data mining and then running that data through software programs which parse and analyze the data and produce statistics, trends, worry flags.

That's how the Obama campaign was run. He had a staff of IT weenies that did data mining and analysis every night and was able to quickly address various groups and knew their concerns.

It's also used on the web to "personalize" your ads based on what you've looked at before.
Amazon uses that technology to do their "May we also suggest" when you shop online.

Predictive analytics is another field that uses the data to predict what might happen.

Do a google on "Big data and the government".
Well apparently one agent is? (lol) Your point is taken. Automation is the trend. Bots are even used to "predict the future". However, "shills" also serve similar purposes. Altho on CD those may not be so necessary.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:15 PM
 
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Well apparently one agent is? (lol) Your point is taken. Automation is the trend. Bots are even used to "predict the future". However, "shills" also serve similar purposes. Altho on CD those may not be so necessary.
Shills come and go. They serve a purpose but that is different than data mining.
A supercomputer (Titan in this case) can process 20,000 trillion calculations per second.

All they need is data funneled in.

Introducing Titan | The World's #1 Open Science Supercomputer
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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Shills come and go. They serve a purpose but that is different than data mining.
A supercomputer (Titan in this case) can process 20,000 trillion calculations per second.

All they need is data funneled in.

Introducing Titan | The World's #1 Open Science Supercomputer
Yes it is very diff than mining. I wasn't equating one with the other, not sure how one could.
Yeah some interesting tech out there.
Digital Evolution: DNA May Bring Computers to Life - LiveScience
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes it is very diff than mining. I wasn't equating one with the other, not sure how one could.
Some posters do if they think this amounts to agents reading forum posts
That would be one hella job creation bill wouldn't it ?

FWIW the USG Research Labs have been dabbling in hybrid supercomputing for a number of years.
Hybrid being fairly new but using connected nodes to produce the performance needed (parallel computing) is how the USG Research Labs operate.

The Air Force, at one point in doing POC, connected a bunch of PS3's together to do parallel computing using clusters.

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/201...rewed-by-sony/
The Air Force Research Laboratory in Rome, New York picked up 336 PS3 systems in 2009 and built itself a 53 teraFLOP processing cluster.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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The FBI needs these online rights (to combat online criminals.)

I have had my credit card # stolen online.
I constantly have to fear opening spam like emails (because of things like viruses.)
I always have to research websites before downloading (so I don't get a computer virus.)

Personally I am sick of the online criminals.
That's not what the FBI is going to be helping you out with.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:29 PM
 
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Some posters do if they think this amounts to agents reading forum posts
That would be one hella job creation bill wouldn't it ?
Maybe Agent Smith
However, this whole issue actually goes beyond simple data mining.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:39 PM
 
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Maybe Agent Smith
However, this whole issue actually goes beyond simple data mining.
We got one poster here that thinks they are going to monitor his email for viruses
He's all for this move.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:40 PM
 
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They wouldn't be building that monster of a data center in Utah if they didn't already have plans.
They are working 24/7 to get it built and it's going to be done and operational this year.
It's 87% complete and will be used to "keep the nation safe".

NSA Utah Data Center - Serving Our Nation's Intelligence Community

This is serious data folks..it will have it's own chiller plant and over 60 emergency generators.
Full of Titan supercomputers storing zettabytes of data.

They are going to grab that data no matter what anyone says.
It says, at the bottom of your link:

"This is a PARODY of the National Security Agency's website and has not been approved, endorsed, or authorized by the NSA or any US Government agency."
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It says, at the bottom of your link:

"This is a PARODY of the National Security Agency's website and has not been approved, endorsed, or authorized by the NSA or any US Government agency."
Oh wow..thanks for catching that. I was looking for a link with pictures of the construction.

There really is a huge data center being built in Utah.

Utah Data Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

U.S. agency denies data center to monitor citizens' emails | Reuters

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...atacenter/all/
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