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Old 07-19-2013, 08:08 AM
Status: "Ephesians 6:12" (set 17 days ago)
 
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Originally Posted by burdell View Post
I'd say a case can be made that "promote the general welfare" justifies aiding Detroit, Baghdad not so much.
Holding up the decay and subsequent bankruptcy of Detroit as examples for other cities should be enough to promote the general welfare.
Those who wish to remain can sort it out.

 
Old 07-19-2013, 08:13 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
Holding up the decay and subsequent bankruptcy of Detroit as examples for other cities should be enough to promote the general welfare.
Those who wish to remain can sort it out.
I'm sure you'll be very happy someday when you or a loved one is in dire need of help and the people passing by just say let them fend for themselves.
 
Old 07-19-2013, 08:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Last Republican Mayor of Detroit was in 1962. 1 party systems don't work.
True, but why is that? If the only people voting are the ones getting the most benefit it's probably going to fail. People just don't vote in poor neighborhoods.
 
Old 07-19-2013, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Why should Detroit be saved anyway? The city needs to be scaled down.
 
Old 07-19-2013, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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Oh yippee, another Detroit thread with a bunch of people who probably couldn't name a current Detroit resident that they know.

The main reason for Detroit going bankrupt might be... err... losing 60 percent of their peak population?
 
Old 07-19-2013, 09:09 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Why should Detroit be saved anyway? The city needs to be scaled down.
Exactly. Relocate some of the people and bulldoze the land. Plant a few trees.
It's like 2 old people living in an old New York mansion they can no longer afford or maintain.

It's called downsizing.

First step is to get a conservative leadership in place who can balance a budget and not steal from the citizens.
But the liberal Blacks in the city will probably not allow that to happen.
 
Old 07-19-2013, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Detroit will recover. Crisis usually focuses Americans (Detroiters are Americans, right?). It's too bad that the steamroll towards a crisis is always so divisive because prevention, as a rule, costs less than reaction.

Last edited by geofra; 07-19-2013 at 09:37 AM..
 
Old 07-19-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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For many, it boils down to one word: CLIMATE!
Looks like you only know half of the facts.

Climate and less taxation- Cheaper cost of living.

ALL lead to my exit from New Jersey for Florida.

Its also why all those Teachers and municipal workers take their nice pensions from northern states to the Carolinas and Florida. Stupidly they also keep voting for the same policies they ran away from!
 
Old 07-19-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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Funny that blue state apologists hate on North Dakota's ultra-law UE rate because it's cold, yet Vermont and upstate NY are nearly as frigid.
Vermont has a 4.4% unemployment rate. And it's a blue state, so the numbers aren't artificially lowered by the state encouraging its poor to sign up for disability.
 
Old 07-19-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Best of luck to Detroit; three-quarters of a million people still live there. 25 times bigger than my small town; which is also having money problems.
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