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Old 07-20-2013, 06:49 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by andywire View Post
In all fairness, the fate of the city wouldn't change in the end if a conservative was suddenly placed in charge. Too much lib for too long and the results are a toxic cesspool of failure. Tear it down, pour cement over the mess and build something viable in it's place. I'm gonna miss their coney dogs though


When a city worker is making over $400,000, for a job that pays $80,000 in Austin.... You know exactly what the problem is.

 
Old 07-20-2013, 06:54 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You mean the deficit that has been declining every year Obama has been in office?


An old chart that has been debunked by the fact the debt and deficits rose at the fastest rate in US History. Bernanke keeps printing.... Detroit cannot.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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Last time I checked, the GOP hasn't had a leadership footprint in Detroit in over 40 years. The malfeasance sits squarely on the shoulders of the Democrats and Democrat constituents. Let them mop up their own mess; they made their bed, now they can suck it up and sleep in it.
It has nothing to do with the democrats, infact they are the reason why Detroit was one of the most booming cities in the nation. Virtually their entire workforce was from massive blue collar factories that were absoutly massive, and held thousands and thousands of jobs. Once they shut down due to the greedy corporate masters shipping the jobs to communist china, it wiped out it's base and major income.

The same thing happened in Ohio like we famously saw in those ads where Willard was shutting down factories, ruining countless lives and wrecking the income of cities.

The GOP love's to see places like Detroit and want the whole nation to look like that. The working man can go to hell, all that matters are the filthy rich.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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Reverend Marvin Winans convinced the city to crack down on strip clubs. See what happens? See?
 
Old 07-20-2013, 09:28 AM
 
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It has nothing to do with the democrats, infact they are the reason why Detroit was one of the most booming cities in the nation. Virtually their entire workforce was from massive blue collar factories that were absoutly massive, and held thousands and thousands of jobs. Once they shut down due to the greedy corporate masters shipping the jobs to communist china, it wiped out it's base and major income.
Between 1913 and 1962 Detroit had 3 democrats as mayors for 6 years and you haven't seen a Republican mayor for Detroit since 1962.

So here's what really happened:

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Of course the city did explode, in riots in 1967, and that was when Detroit’s downfall — its current path to insolvency — was set in agonizing slow motion. The white families in my neighborhood, my friends, all fled to the safety of the suburbs. My street, and my neighborhood, went from mixed to all black in an instant. Many of the black newcomers who came couldn’t get mortgages, so most ended up as renters, not homeowners.



Properties fell into disrepair. Drugs, prostitution and burglaries soared. My parents had burglar bars installed on all the downstairs windows; the thieves climbed a front-yard tree and came in the upstairs. They had upstairs bars installed. The burglars ripped those bars out and hit us again. And again. And again, until my parents finally moved far away, to the very edge of Detroit on the border of Dearborn.
Detroit’s demise was decades in the making - The Washington Post

There was no real harmony between whites and blacks in Detroit and now there is no harmony between blacks in Detroit. When whitey left in droves they took their tax revenues with them.

So in reality it was democrat policies, it being a one-trick-pony in terms of its economy and white flight that caused the ultimate demise.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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I know this was posted earlier, but everything "Detroit" seems to be dumped into this already too long thread. Breaking news gets lost and the thread itself goes way off track. The Detroit Bankruptcy is an important issue - they expect new precedents to be established and lead the way for other large cities that may face the same challenges. At the very least - it's a mirror to what is happening and what can happen to a city near a lot of people .... not me, but others.

Ingham County judge rules Detroit bankruptcy be withdrawn; Schuette appeals - Detroit News Bureau

Of course the Washington CongressCritters have to stick their oar in the muddy water .....
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Meanwhile, U.S. Rep. John Conyers Jr., D-Detroit, said Friday that Aquilina’s ruling justifies the need for congressional hearings on whether Detroit is misusing the bankruptcy process to slash retiree pensions and health insurance coverage.
Isn't it interesting that the Unions went to a Ingham County Circuit judge to try and stop the Bankruptcy filing ,,, the same County Judge that ruled against the Emergency Manager for Flint, Mi.
Neither of those cities are within Ingham County, but the Unions sure know where to go Judge Shopping for favorable rulings. Detroit is in Wayne County - there are 61 County Circuit Judges in Wayne County. The comments by the Judge about "not honoring Obama" and her hand written comments or the Order to send a copy to Obama were way over the top. She sounds like an idiot when she does something like that. She is a former Divorce attorney, not a State Constitution and Bankruptcy scholar.

Aquilina ruled on a suit brought by the leader of a union representing city employees, saying the state-appointed review team that chose Brown as the emergency manager violated the state Open Meetings Act when it appointed him. -- March 2012

This is the way the Unions have "played the game" for years - they take everything to a "friendly court" and delay,delay,delay ..... it's costs Cities and States Millions of dollars to fight these lawsuits.

I'm doubtful that going to work very long in this Bankruptcy case - even though the Judge is sending the paperwork to Obama and expecting him to step in. The Bankruptcy filing was in a Federal Court and a Judge has already been chosen to handle the case. It's not going to be like the Obama Administration "managed bankruptcy" GM & Chrysler cases that were filed in New York City.

A Detroit Judge has been chosen to hear this case and he sounds like a no-nonsense and excellent choice. It's important for these matters to move fairly quickly without a lot of un-necessary delay. Detroit will have limited funds to operate with - a long Bankruptcy trial eats up the available money and makes it more difficult for a City to recover.
Veteran Detroit bankruptcy judge gets historic case Rhodes known for skill, efficiency, diplomacy in bankruptcy cases

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The bankruptcy bench unanimously recommended that the case be assigned to Rhodes, according to letters filed in court Friday.

“I have worked extensively with Judge Rhodes when he was chief judge of the bankruptcy court, and he has outstanding administrative and management skills, which of course will be necessary in handling a case of this magnitude,” Chief U.S. District Judge Gerald Rosen for the Eastern District of Michigan wrote.

The appointment and decision to file the case locally are significant, local bankruptcy lawyers said.

“It’s got to be heard in Detroit,” Handler said. “The whole cause and effect occurred in Detroit.”
Judge Rhodes is not afraid of the Big Cases and won't face any "learning curve" about Detroit. The Unions are going to be very unhappy about this Judge - this bankruptcy is going forward and the County Judge is not going to trump Federal Court. I don't know much about Bankruptcy courts, but they do have a lot of power ..... we saw the bizarre rulings in the GM & Chrysler cases.

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On Friday, Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette said he will appeal an Ingham County judge's ruling that Detroit's bankruptcy filing must be withdrawn because it violates the Michigan Constitution and state law.

However, the order from Ingham County Circuit Judge Rosemarie Aquilina ultimately could have little effect because the bankruptcy case already was filed in federal court, and federal law generally trumps state law. The city filed a motion requesting to include the state as a party in the bankruptcy code's provisions that put on hold all lawsuits against the city, a clear attempt to fight the Ingham County ruling by preventing the state from being sued in similar fashion. The city is asking U.S. District Judge Steven Rhodes to hold a hearing on Tuesday, or earlier, to decide this and other matters. USA Today
 
Old 07-20-2013, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Obama said in 2012 that he saved Detroit when they bailed out GM/Chrysler.
What happened ?
 
Old 07-20-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Just another excuse to utterly destroy the American taxpayer and economy.
Well, if you want to fight this, I sure hope you never vote for any Democrat OR Republican for any national office ever.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Hypocritical, blind partisan hack idiocy is an even more profound one, and one that is far more damaging to this nation and its citizens.
 
Old 07-20-2013, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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It has nothing to do with the democrats, infact they are the reason why Detroit was one of the most booming cities in the nation. Virtually their entire workforce was from massive blue collar factories that were absoutly massive, and held thousands and thousands of jobs. Once they shut down due to the greedy corporate masters shipping the jobs to communist china, it wiped out it's base and major income.

The same thing happened in Ohio like we famously saw in those ads where Willard was shutting down factories, ruining countless lives and wrecking the income of cities.

The GOP love's to see places like Detroit and want the whole nation to look like that. The working man can go to hell, all that matters are the filthy rich.
But the automakers DIDN'T ship jobs to China. During their downfall Americans quit buying their cars because there were better choices. They finally realized loyalty is no reason to choose one car over another. At the same time foreign automakers decided it made economic sense to build cars in the US, but not in UAW states.

One of the colossal mistakes made was to rescue Chrysler the first time - Congress and Jimmy Carter. They should have let Chrysler go down. The automakers would have learned they cannot afford to make bad cars that cost too much.
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