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That the Benghazi attack had nothing to do with some Youtube video. That this was a spontaneous attack that took place during a protest. That there was even a protest in the first place. That this attack wasn't premeditated.
1) The Benghazi scandal unfolding before us right now has many aspects to it, many liberals seem to want to push some BS line that this is all being done because the GOP is scared of Hillary Clinton in 2016. If the facts in this case prove that Hillary Clinton had something to do with or knowledge of the mishandling and then obvious coverup of the Benghazi incident then the GOP is 100% right to want to eliminate any chance she has of running/winning anything ever again including the POTUS 2016 election.
This is political, there's no way around that and there's nothing wrong with people being outraged over what took place given the facts we're slowly finding out. If you're ok with a coverup taking place and with whistleblowers being targeted then just admit it, don't be shy.
2) The IRS scandal unfolding before us has nothing to do with an IRS audit of a group for something they did or were accused of doing. The IRS is expected to investigate and scrutinize a group that's accused of a crime or fraud, that's not what took place. The facts of the matter is that the IRS specifically targeted groups because of certain terms in their name (ei: Tea Party) during the non profit group application process. They clearly targeted groups that were not supporting the current administration.
If a Tea Party group had been accused of fraud I would fully expect the IRS to investigate but that isn't the case here. These groups were unfairly targeted because of their name or because of their perceived political leaning which is 100% wrong no matter which direction it goes. If you endorse the IRS unfairly targeting groups then come out and admit it but don't try to claim that it happens all the time or that it's ok because it's not.
So liberals, please stop trying to brush these 2 instances under the carpet while spouting ignorance and lies. The facts are coming to light and will continue to come out.
Often with the IRS its up to you to prove your innocence or your qualifications to maintain your tax exempt status. The default lies with the IRS, if they claim you owe taxes, you owe them until you can prove that you don't.
The IRS threatened to remove the tax exempt status of the Untied Church of Christ, Obama's denomination, in 2008. It cost the denomination hundreds of thousands of dollars to prove that they hadn't violated their tax-exempt status.
If people were criminally or civilly culpable in these scandals, I expect them to be held to account.
Does that mean I, or anyone else, must want to return power to the party that gave us the apocalyptic horror of the Iraq War and attempted to legalize torture? Nope.
At this point, “is a reasonable question to ask.”
Since the IRS also is the chief enforcer of Obamacare requirements, does the IRS’s admission means it “will deny or delay access to health care” for conservatives.
Obamacare is policed by the IRS and has admitted to targeting conservative groups. Obama should sign the law to repeal Obamacare.
No, the NAACP was audited because it was seen as being political with a tax exempt status, Specifically because of the words of the leader of the NAACP at the time.
So why is it wrong for them to Audit the NAACP and not conservative groups run by Republicans who speak partisan all the time ?
"Being political with tax exempt status" is tax fraud, they were audited because of that taking place which is illegal.
That's not what took place in this case with the IRS, in this case these groups were unfairly targeted because of their name. Please tell me you actually understand the difference here.
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That the Benghazi attack had nothing to do with some Youtube video. That this was a spontaneous attack that took place during a protest. That there was even a protest in the first place. That this attack wasn't premeditated.
But they did say it was a terrorist attack, You dont know if there was a protest that day or not, members of the Libyan government say their were. Both Congressman Cummings and Del.Norton quoted it during Mr.Hicks questioning in the last hearings, did you watch ?
also, the only referneces to the video where made when addressing the protest in front of 20 other embassies around the middle east or did you forget that happened ?
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"Being political with tax exempt status" is tax fraud, they were audited because of that taking place which is illegal.
That's not what took place in this case with the IRS, in this case these groups were unfairly targeted because of their name. Please tell me you actually understand the difference here.
So you are arguing that groups with political names are never political ?
And your first line makes my point, are you saying groups like Crossroads GPS are not political ??????
Would you willingly hide facts or block Americans from hearing those facts about these scandals in order to stop the party you don't like from winning an election?
No, and if people did that, by all means punish them. That won't change my vote however.
But they did say it was a terrorist attack, You dont know if there was a protest that day or not, members of the Libyan government say their were. Both Congressman Cummings and Del.Norton quoted it during Mr.Hicks questioning in the last hearings, did you watch ?
also, the only referneces to the video where made when addressing the protest in front of 20 other embassies around the middle east or did you forget that happened ?
I know all about your talking points, we're talking about facts in here. Catch up brother, you're about a month behind.
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Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability
"Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were," said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.
"We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.
Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."
"I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances," he said.
Would he also have LIED about what happened and attempted to blame it on a video, when he KNEW it was NOT the video?
To quote Hillary: it's time we knew what they knew, and when they knew it.
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