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1) The Benghazi scandal unfolding before us right now has many aspects to it, many liberals seem to want to push some BS line that this is all being done because the GOP is scared of Hillary Clinton in 2016. If the facts in this case prove that Hillary Clinton had something to do with or knowledge of the mishandling and then obvious coverup of the Benghazi incident then the GOP is 100% right to want to eliminate any chance she has of running/winning anything ever again including the POTUS 2016 election.
This is political, there's no way around that and there's nothing wrong with people being outraged over what took place given the facts we're slowly finding out. If you're ok with a coverup taking place and with whistleblowers being targeted then just admit it, don't be shy.
2) The IRS scandal unfolding before us has nothing to do with an IRS audit of a group for something they did or were accused of doing. The IRS is expected to investigate and scrutinize a group that's accused of a crime or fraud, that's not what took place. The facts of the matter is that the IRS specifically targeted groups because of certain terms in their name (ei: Tea Party) during the non profit group application process. They clearly targeted groups that were not supporting the current administration.
If a Tea Party group had been accused of fraud I would fully expect the IRS to investigate but that isn't the case here. These groups were unfairly targeted because of their name or because of their perceived political leaning which is 100% wrong no matter which direction it goes. If you endorse the IRS unfairly targeting groups then come out and admit it but don't try to claim that it happens all the time or that it's ok because it's not.
So liberals, please stop trying to brush these 2 instances under the carpet while spouting ignorance and lies. The facts are coming to light and will continue to come out.
Why do you assume liberals had any hand in either of these (non)issues?
Yeah people getting killed over incompetence or grudge and groups being targeted for political reasons by the feds are ALL ok by you Left nutters, but a homosexuals not being able to get married is ALL the rage..... Your side has some extremely screwed up people and priorities.
Why do you assume liberals had any hand in either of these (non)issues?
Are you kidding? A blatant coverup of a terrorist attack on an American embassy that lead to the death of 4 Americans isn't a (non)issue, I don't care who they vote for or what their political affiliation might have been.
Using the IRS as an attack dog on your political opponents isn't a (non)issue, it was one of the big things that brought Nixon down.
Are you saying that Obama, Clinton, Rice and the other people involved in these instances aren't on the left?
1) The Benghazi scandal unfolding before us right now has many aspects to it, many liberals seem to want to push some BS line that this is all being done because the GOP is scared of Hillary Clinton in 2016. If the facts in this case prove that Hillary Clinton had something to do with or knowledge of the mishandling and then obvious coverup of the Benghazi incident then the GOP is 100% right to want to eliminate any chance she has of running/winning anything ever again including the POTUS 2016 election.
This is political, there's no way around that and there's nothing wrong with people being outraged over what took place given the facts we're slowly finding out. If you're ok with a coverup taking place and with whistleblowers being targeted then just admit it, don't be shy.
2) The IRS scandal unfolding before us has nothing to do with an IRS audit of a group for something they did or were accused of doing. The IRS is expected to investigate and scrutinize a group that's accused of a crime or fraud, that's not what took place. The facts of the matter is that the IRS specifically targeted groups because of certain terms in their name (ei: Tea Party) during the non profit group application process. They clearly targeted groups that were not supporting the current administration.
If a Tea Party group had been accused of fraud I would fully expect the IRS to investigate but that isn't the case here. These groups were unfairly targeted because of their name or because of their perceived political leaning which is 100% wrong no matter which direction it goes. If you endorse the IRS unfairly targeting groups then come out and admit it but don't try to claim that it happens all the time or that it's ok because it's not.
So liberals, please stop trying to brush these 2 instances under the carpet while spouting ignorance and lies. The facts are coming to light and will continue to come out.
Are you considering what Robert Gates had to say about BENGAHZI?
Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability
"Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were," said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.
"We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.
Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."
"I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances," he said.
Yeah people getting killed over incompetence or grudge and groups being targeted for political reasons by the feds are ALL ok by you Left nutters, but a homosexuals not being able to get married is ALL the rage..... Your side has some extremely screwed up people and priorities.
People got killed over incomptence in Boston, Ft. Hood, Sandy Hook, 9/11, and so on. What does political affiliation have to do with the human capacity for error?
Why are you so obsessed with gays? That has nothing to do with the topic, and shows you have no interest in discussing this topic.
Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability
"Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were," said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.
"We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.
Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."
"I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances," he said.
If people were criminally or civilly culpable in these scandals, I expect them to be held to account.
Does that mean I, or anyone else, must want to return power to the party that gave us the apocalyptic horror of the Iraq War and attempted to legalize torture? Nope.
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Are you kidding? A blatant coverup of a terrorist attack on an American embassy that lead to the death of 4 Americans isn't a (non)issue, I don't care who they vote for or what their political affiliation might have been.
Using the IRS as an attack dog on your political opponents isn't a (non)issue, it was one of the big things that brought Nixon down.
Are you saying that Obama, Clinton, Rice and the other people involved in these instances aren't on the left?
For it to be a cover up someone would have actually had to cover it up. no one did. They didnt claim there was an explosion at Benghazi that killed 4 people
Where were you in 2004 When the IRS audited the NAACP ? 501(c)3 and 501(c)4 organizations can not campaign for candidates yet groups like Crossroads GPS do that by using the loopholes in the writing of how those groups can operate.
2 current topics that liberals can't seen to comprehend
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Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow
1) The Benghazi scandal unfolding before us right now has many aspects to it, many liberals seem to want to push some BS line that this is all being done because the GOP is scared of Hillary Clinton in 2016. If the facts in this case prove that Hillary Clinton had something to do with or knowledge of the mishandling and then obvious coverup of the Benghazi incident then the GOP is 100% right to want to eliminate any chance she has of running/winning anything ever again including the POTUS 2016 election.
This is political, there's no way around that and there's nothing wrong with people being outraged over what took place given the facts we're slowly finding out. If you're ok with a coverup taking place and with whistleblowers being targeted then just admit it, don't be shy.
2) The IRS scandal unfolding before us has nothing to do with an IRS audit of a group for something they did or were accused of doing. The IRS is expected to investigate and scrutinize a group that's accused of a crime or fraud, that's not what took place. The facts of the matter is that the IRS specifically targeted groups because of certain terms in their name (ei: Tea Party) during the non profit group application process. They clearly targeted groups that were not supporting the current administration.
If a Tea Party group had been accused of fraud I would fully expect the IRS to investigate but that isn't the case here. These groups were unfairly targeted because of their name or because of their perceived political leaning which is 100% wrong no matter which direction it goes. If you endorse the IRS unfairly targeting groups then come out and admit it but don't try to claim that it happens all the time or that it's ok because it's not.
So liberals, please stop trying to brush these 2 instances under the carpet while spouting ignorance and lies. The facts are coming to light and will continue to come out.
Liberals will not brush these under the carpet.
They'll simply peter out on their own, since there is no substance to either.
Watch and see.
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A blatant coverup of a terrorist attack on an American embassy that lead to the death of 4 Americans isn't a (non)issue, I don't care who they vote for or what their political affiliation might have been.
2 current topics that liberals can't seen to comprehend
