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View Poll Results: Why do 97% of scientific studies agree that climate change is manmade?
1. Consipracy 22 41.51%
2. Scientists are not as smart as average Joe 5 9.43%
3. Scientists don't believe in the bible or the rapture 26 49.06%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-20-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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Response to the survey question "Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?" (Doran 2009)General public data come from a 2008 Gallup poll.
In this study the 97% figure is 76 self described climate scientists.

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"Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?"
What is the quantification of significant? Certainly if man has had any effect at all on climate that could be considered significant?

 
Old 05-20-2013, 08:27 PM
 
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Here is what they are citing for that 97%, figure.


Do you want to try and defend it? I
Defend what? Why don't you prove that the vast majority of climate scientists don't believe that global warming has man-made causes?
 
Old 05-20-2013, 08:28 PM
 
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Defend what? Why don't you prove that the vast majority of climate scientists don't believe that global warming has man-made causes?
Is 76 scientists the vast majority?
 
Old 05-20-2013, 08:30 PM
 
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why do the fascist liberals deny science...because they want to tax it


NOT ONE scientist has proven MANMADE global warming

the globe evolves..the global enviroment changes..periodicly...there have been WARMER TIMES..there have been cooler times..there have been times when C02 was MUCH, MUCH higher

science shows that humans use oxygen and expele (exhale) co2

science shows that greenery (plantlife) uses co2 and expeles o2

science shows that co2 levels have been 3 times HIGHER than they are today, in the past (ie the co2 325 of today is is much lower than the 750-10000 that co2 levels were 100,000 years ago

science shows us that the earth has warmed AND cooled many times

science shows us that ANTARTICA was once a lush furtile land, not covered in ice

science shows us that greenland was once a green lush furtile land, not covered with ice

science shows us that GLACIERS created many of the geographical features that we look at today (ie Long Island was made by the lower reaching of graciers, the great lakes were created by glaciers, the grand canyon was created by glacial melting)

science shows us that plants would grow much better, and use less water if the co2 was HIGHER...around 700-1500ppm compared to the current 320ppm

Why do liberals DENY science???...because with the science they cant get their TAX..so they manipulate the science
If you really want to learn more about the issues you raise, try this website:

Office of Planning and Research - Common Denier Arguments

It addresses the following claims:

“Temperatures aren’t actually increasing – they’re even dropping in some places.”

“There was a drop in global temperatures around the middle of the last century. Therefore, climate change is not happening.”

“There isn’t a correlation between rising temperatures and CO2 emissions – therefore, humans can’t be causing climate change.”

“Greenhouse gases aren’t causing climate change – it’s actually the sun, volcanoes, or some other source.”

“Global temperatures have been high in the past. The current temperature increase is nothing new or unique, but just natural variation.”

“Climate models are unreliable.”

“We can’t even predict next week’s weather. How can future climate predictions be accurate?”

“There isn’t a scientific consensus on climate change. Lots of scientists have signed a petition against it.”

“Scientists are out for personal gain, publishing alarmist studies to capture research grants.”

“Dissenting scientists are stifled and can’t publish their research.”

“The Climategate scandal showed that scientists have manipulated data to invent the climate problem.”

“Maybe greenhouse gases will cause warming, but the presence of more clouds will have a cooling effect and minimize warming.”

“So what if it gets warmer? More CO2 and warmer weather might be beneficial.”

“Ok, maybe climate change is happening, but it’ll cost too much to mitigate it.”
 
Old 05-20-2013, 08:32 PM
 
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Is 76 scientists the vast majority?
do you have a link to the article you are talking about?

And I repeat, find any evidence that most reputable climate scientists don't think global warming has man-made causes.
 
Old 05-20-2013, 08:39 PM
 
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do you have a link to the article you are talking about?
It not an article, it's the study you are referencing.........

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http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf
In our survey, the most specialized and knowledgeable respondents (with regard to climate
change) are those who listed climate science as their area of expertise and who
also have published more than 50% of their recent peer-reviewed papers on the subject
of climate change (79 individuals in total). Of these specialists, 96.2%
(76 of 79) answered “risen” to questionand 97.4% (75 of 77) answered yes to question2.
This is why you need to actually go and read what you are citing instead or relying on some web page to spoon feed it to you. .
 
Old 05-20-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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It not an article, it's the study you are referencing.........



This is why you need to actually go and read what you are citing instead or relying on some web page to spoon feed it to you. .
There were only 79 super-specialized climate scientists in that particular study, but there were 3146 scientists of the following types:

More than 90% of participants had Ph.D.s, and 7% had master’s degrees. With survey participants
asked to select a single category, the most common areas of expertise reported were geochemistry (15.5%), geophysics (12%), and oceanography (10.5%). General geology, hydrology/hydrogeology, and paleontology
each accounted for 5–7% of the total respondents.

It doesn't change the fact that hundreds of scientific organizations which represent literally hundreds of thousands of scientists of all types endorse the view that global warming involves man-made causes.
 
Old 05-20-2013, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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For the record in the US the amount of forested areas has actually grown slightly over the last century.
I will take yourword for it but world wide deforestation is rampant.
 
Old 05-20-2013, 11:13 PM
 
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I will take yourword for it but world wide deforestation is rampant.
Since 1600, 90% of the virgin forests that once covered much of the lower 48 states have been cleared away. Most of the remaining old-growth forests in the lower 48 states and Alaska are on public lands. In the Pacific Northwest about 80% of this forestland is slated for logging.



Primary forest areas in the U.S.


Deforestation
 
Old 05-20-2013, 11:28 PM
 
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Since 1600, 90% of the virgin forests that once covered much of the lower 48 states have been cleared away. Most of the remaining old-growth forests in the lower 48 states and Alaska are on public lands. In the Pacific Northwest about 80% of this forestland is slated for logging.
Not according to the US forest Service:

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http://www.nrs.fs.fed.us/pubs/gtr/gtr_nc241.pdf

Today, the forests of the United
States cover 749 million acres, are split almost
evenly east and west of the central plain, and
contain over 800 species of trees of which 82 are
non-native. About one-third of the pre-European
settlement forest has been cleared, primarily for
agriculture during the 19th century. Although
there have been significant regional changes, the
total area of forest land has been fairly stable for
nearly 100 years.
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