One Drop Rule vs. Affirmative Action. (Brown, Barack Obama, bias, compare)

[ProLogic]

One of of my neighbors is snow White.. theres no way he's Native American anymore. I think his great great grandmother was Comanche. I also think he gets checks. Only people who have endured physical harm like Slaves and Native Americans that we're affected by the tragedies should get any money. Native Americans who live on the reservations..? I'll pass that but not Black people of today getting checks from the Government. It would be like Mexicans saying.. "Wait, I'm part Native American too. Can I get a check".

[F355]

The one drop rule is an antiquated, genetically inconsistent, and quite frankly, racist classification. If one is considered black if they have any sub Saharan African genetic roots, why then is a black person with any European genetic roots not considered white?

I know my family, for instance, has got some serious European admixture in there because our skin color, features (prominent nasal bridges, thin lips), and in the case of my mom, hair texture are classic Caucasian. Yet we're certainly not white.

Almost all black people living in America today have atleast some European admixture. In fact, the average European genetic information found on the average American black genotype is somewhere around 20%, and in the case of higher percentages, these traits are often expressed phenotypically (as they are within my family).

And that's certainly more than "one drop". I'm not surprised something like this would be delegated to a, to put it mildly, culturally backwards place in the South.

[ArizonaBear]

Virginia has or at least the 'One Drop Rule'.

My maternal grandmother is from Orange County, Va. and that place was about 50/50 Black/White 100 years ago. Her family lived amongst many 'Negroes/Mulattoes' according to the 1910 and prior US Census.

Example; grandmother's father, no trace (not even his first name) can be found.

I have Terrill and Daniel in that branch of the family tree-----and, many of them were Black. Yes; some of the freed slaves took the names of their former masters after the Civil War but still.........

My point being back then; if a light skinned/eyed person could 'pass' as White, they did so-----or, the Census takers recorded them as such.

I am 'White' BTW.

[F355]

The average white person has roughly 8% sub Saharan African genetic information encoded within their genotypes.

[ayannaaaliyah]

Originally Posted by Yeledaf

So -- 20 grand per brother and everyone shuts the eff up?

Sounds like a winner to me!

Not now

[florida southerner 3]

Originally Posted by F355

The one drop rule is an antiquated, genetically inconsistent, and quite frankly, racist classification. If one is considered black if they have any sub Saharan African genetic roots, why then is a black person with any European genetic roots not considered white?

I know my family, for instance, has got some serious European admixture in there because our skin color, features (prominent nasal bridges, thin lips), and in the case of my mom, hair texture are classic Caucasian. Yet we're certainly not white.

Almost all black people living in America today have atleast some European admixture. In fact, the average European genetic information found on the average American black genotype is somewhere around 20%, and in the case of higher percentages, these traits are often expressed phenotypically (as they are within my family).

And that's certainly more than "one drop". I'm not surprised something like this would be delegated to a, to put it mildly, culturally backwards place in the South.

I totally agree with you on your statements. The "One-Drop Rule" is very inconsistant and ludacris! There's actually 2 versions of the "One-Drop Rule." One is the Anglo American version and the other is the Latin American version. Both versions were originally developed in order to ensure superiority and the perpetuality of the White race in order to maintain the White elite aristocracy in their respective colonies.

The Anglo version states that anybody with so much as any visible traits of Black blood in them is Black, even if they look White predominantly! This is why people think nothing of considering Colin Powell, Halle Berry, Mariah Carey, Vanessa Williams, or Barach Obama, et. al. to be Black, when they are actually Mulatto. Mariah Carey especially looks predominantly White enough that she could be considered White! This kind of stark contrast and unilateral concept caused a backlash in which Blacks and those forced into being Black because of "one drop" of Black blood joined forces into a socalled Black community and they rallied together over time and became essentially one unified political force! Blacks along with the varying degrees of Mulattos considered Black by Whites all eventually considered themselves all Black and this greatly inflated the numbers of "Black" people until their voices were heard. The result: Civil Rights and and all that entailed! Black Anglo Americans have pretty much overcome all their obstacles because their numbers were greatly enhanced and strengthened by the vast numbers of Mulatto Anglo Americans!

The Latino version stated that anybody with so much as any visible traits of White blood in them could be elevated to or grafted into the White population, or they could buy their White status as they progressed up the social ladder of success even if it was obvious they weren't fully White. The above mentioned people: Colin Powell, Halle Berry, Mariah Carey, Vanessa Williams, and Barach Obama could just as easily be considered White in Latin American countries due to their One-Drop Rule! They are encouraged to marry back in with lighter-skinned Latinos until they're offspring are pretty much White! The reason for this was that the Spanish, Portuguese, and French colonizers mainly came to the Americas with little or no women or families. It was mainly a military occupation at first until they prepared the colonies for more settlers. The Spaniards, Portuguese, and Frenchmen all believing the White race was superior to the Blacks they used as slaves had to maintain civilization and an elite White ruling class. This version is much more insidious because it causes people to overlook the fact that people are distancing themselves from their roots and creating a caste system in where the darkest people are at the bottom and will remain there while the lighter you are, the higher you can climb, with the Whitest being on top! In this way, the numbers of Black Latin Americans stays relatively small and insufficient enough to retaliate or fight against the White ruling class. It also prevents them from unifying with their lighter-skinned Mulatto population since these Mulattos purposefully want to be distanced from their darker Black cousins. They don't want to be associated with any Blackness and thus deny all of it. In this case, the Whites and the Mulattos counted and considered White and who consider themselves White are the vast majority and therefore remain in control. The result: limited Civil Rights movements if any at all. And those that do try are quickly quelled and snuffed out. Therefore, in the greatest majority of Latin American nations, Whites still remain at the top of the social ladder without fear of that status crumbling!

In short, the most logical outlook on race if we're going to look at it at all is this. If one looks Black or predominantly Black, they're Black. If one looks White or predominantly White, they're White. If one looks obviously Mixed to obvious degrees, then they're Mixed (Mulatto) It's simple, concise, and non-contradictory.

[F355]

Great post. And if one is mixed, they should be classified as mixed, not black.

Actually, anyone with more than 25% genetic information from outside their prominent racial makeup is considered mixed.

So, essentially, 70% of American blacks are mixed.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by F355

Great post. And if one is mixed, they should be classified as mixed, not black.

Actually, anyone with more than 25% genetic information from outside their prominent racial makeup is considered mixed.

So, essentially, 70% of American blacks are mixed.

I catch your drift.

Some years ago I know a woman who was 1/4 Cherokee Indian and 3/4's Nordic White (German/Scandinavian type).

She has natural platinum blonde hair, sapphire blue eyes and porcelain white skin-------with high cheekbones and slanted eyes.

She was startling to look at because of two very different ethnic stereotypes 'colliding' on a subconscious level.

[F355]

Yeah, there are people in my family who look white with dark skin and nappy hair. Definitely an interesting look.

[florida southerner 3]

A good example of White people with obvious Black in their ancestry are the American character actor/boxer Randall "Tex" Cobb and possibly the reknowned British actor John Rhys-Davies. These 2 actors, both obviously White, but also show signs of Black in their genetic makeup, especially Cobb!