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Old 05-31-2013, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Northern NJ
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Evolutionary biology proves you wrong. If every individual animal (human included) on earth procreated, we'd all die off from overpopulation.
This philosophy is called determinism. That we are "made to do something", like a tool is made to do something or help carry out a task. This is foolish. We exist. We are free. We can do what we want. We are not intrinsically "made" or "predestined" or "puposed" for anything at all. We have the capability to procreate and choose freely whether we want to do so. However there is no mandate and no requirement and no design and no intent that we must procreate. We are free entities that can choose to procreate or not procreate as we see fit. And there is no moral imperative either way, because we are not born into slavery or expectation - except when tyrants decide to live otherwise.

 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:15 AM
 
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If you are worshiping God, you would not promote homosexuality as OK.
Most Jews support gays, and Jews are God's chosen people. Homosexuality does not exist in Hebrew or Greek. It's not mentioned in the Bible. You're butchering the Bible based on pure ignorance to condemn people you don't like. You'd hate gays even if the Bible didn't exist.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Northern NJ
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If you are worshiping God, you would not promote homosexuality as OK.
This is not rational. Since we cannot know God's will, we can choose, by Faith, to assert that God has a purpose for the homosexual. And we can assert, by Faith, that such a purpose is divinely inspired and should be respected. This is Faith that we are talking about. Once we choose it, we are free to assert it. For whatever purpose we design. For whatever emotion we may feel.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Planet earth
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He's damn right.

No... not exactly. However he WILL be damned.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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If you are worshiping God, you would not promote homosexuality as OK.
Then tell me when or where your "jesus" or your "god" ever said a word about homosexuals? Where in your fancy little book does it say anything about homosexuals at all?

Last I checked, we live in America, not "god"land. We Americans have something called civil rights, freedoms, and liberties that you nor anyone else can take away. That being the case, why do you feel you have the right to do just that?
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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If God doesn't want gay people to get married, then why did God create gay people?
If God doesn't want little boys and girls getting molested, why did he create pedophiles?

... Or perhaps God didn't make pedophiles.

Maybe there's genetics at work here, maybe there isn't. Maybe people have an inborn sexual attraction to little boys and/or girls. Maybe it's all environmental and developmental. Maybe it's a combination of the two. We just simply don't know ... just like homosexuality. Only difference is that homosexuality is between consenting adults. That makes it legal where pedophilia is not obviously.

Marriage is a religious rite. It has always been between men and women. Why do we have to redefine a religious rite? Why is the government even involved? If gays want equal status under the law and for tax purposes, that's fine. Just call it something else -- even if it's just for the sake of not confusing people. Marriage has always referenced a heterosexual union. If you say you are married, the automatic assumption is that you are straight and joined with a member of the opposite sex. Conversely, when gays reference "my partner" we know what they're talking about.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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Even if it's true that we don't have a choice with respect to our sexual preferences, I believe we do have a choice in how we act out our sexuality and what type of sexual lifestyle we decide to lead. For example, heterosexuals make choices each and every day regarding whether to have sex outside of marriage, and whether to have children out of wedlock. It's not really a matter of your sexual preferences, it's about the actions that you decide to engage in.
That analogy doesn't make sense. Now if you said that homosexuals make choices about whether to have sex outside their marriage or their committed relationships, that would be comparing apples to apples.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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Then tell me when or where your "jesus" or your "god" ever said a word about homosexuals? Where in your fancy little book does it say anything about homosexuals at all?

Last I checked, we live in America, not "god"land. We Americans have something called civil rights, freedoms, and liberties that you nor anyone else can take away. That being the case, why do you feel you have the right to do just that?
He's going to quote Leviticus, Romans, and Corinthians. Heads up. He doesn't understand them, but he'll quote them out of context and original language anyway.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:31 AM
 
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If God doesn't want little boys and girls getting molested, why did he create pedophiles?

... Or perhaps God didn't make pedophiles.

Maybe there's genetics at work here, maybe there isn't. Maybe people have an inborn sexual attraction to little boys and/or girls. Maybe it's all environmental and developmental. Maybe it's a combination of the two. We just simply don't know ... just like homosexuality. Only difference is that homosexuality is between consenting adults. That makes it legal where pedophilia is not obviously.

Marriage is a religious rite. It has always been between men and women. Why do we have to redefine a religious rite? Why is the government even involved? If gays want equal status under the law and for tax purposes, that's fine. Just call it something else -- even if it's just for the sake of not confusing people. Marriage has always referenced a heterosexual union. If you say you are married, the automatic assumption is that you are straight and joined with a member of the opposite sex. Conversely, when gays reference "my partner" we know what they're talking about.
No, marriage is not a religious rite. The Church rejected it for most of its history, and marriage predates religion. In the United States, it's 100% secular.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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If God doesn't want little boys and girls getting molested, why did he create pedophiles?

... Or perhaps God didn't make pedophiles.

Maybe there's genetics at work here, maybe there isn't. Maybe people have an inborn sexual attraction to little boys and/or girls. Maybe it's all environmental and developmental. Maybe it's a combination of the two. We just simply don't know ... just like homosexuality. Only difference is that homosexuality is between consenting adults. That makes it legal where pedophilia is not obviously.

Marriage is a religious rite. It has always been between men and women. Why do we have to redefine a religious rite? Why is the government even involved? If gays want equal status under the law and for tax purposes, that's fine. Just call it something else -- even if it's just for the sake of not confusing people. Marriage has always referenced a heterosexual union. If you say you are married, the automatic assumption is that you are straight and joined with a member of the opposite sex. Conversely, when gays reference "my partner" we know what they're talking about.
Funny, I went to city hall to get a marriage license not a church.

There have been many cultures that allowed, even revered, same sex couples. Many cultures had same sex marriages, even right here in America before the bible freaks got here and slaughtered everyone who didn't follow their religion.
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