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Old 05-31-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Fiyero View Post
Most Jews support gays, and Jews are God's chosen people. Homosexuality does not exist in Hebrew or Greek. It's not mentioned in the Bible. You're butchering the Bible based on pure ignorance to condemn people you don't like. You'd hate gays even if the Bible didn't exist.
The Jews running around in America for the most part left Judaism long ago. There is no gay marriage in the state of Israel.

 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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That is only in the new gay interpretation of the bible. The bible scholars never would agree to that interpretation. How more hospitable can a man be than to offer up his daughters?

You really believe God would wipe out a whole town for not being "hospitable?" For not laying out cookies when a stranger comes by?
Are you kidding? "The new gay interpretation"?

It's the old and original Jewish interpretation:

HOSPITALITY - JewishEncyclopedia.com
 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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Timothy is a New Testament.
The New Testament didn't exist when Timothy was written. The only scripture used for teaching when that book was written was the Torah. That's what Jesus read in the temple. Jesus didn't study the New Testament or teach from it. It didn't exist.

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If you're referring to the Leviticus verse against homosexuality, Christians are charged with following the Old Testament as well.
Leviticus does not condemn homosexuality, it condemns pagan prostitution. And if Christians are charged with following the Hebrew Bible, why do you ignore 90% of the 613 Mitzvot? Why aren't we executing you right now, since you have committed capital crimes under Old Testament law?
 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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The Jews running around in America for the most part left Judaism long ago. There is no gay marriage in the state of Israel.
Most Jews in Israel support same-sex marriage. And no, most Jews in America didn't leave Judaism. However, same-sex couples can already get all the rights afforded to heterosexual couples in Israel without a marriage license.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:28 AM
 
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That is only in the new gay interpretation of the bible. The bible scholars never would agree to that interpretation. How more hospitable can a man be than to offer up his daughters?

You really believe God would wipe out a whole town for not being "hospitable?" For not laying out cookies when a stranger comes by?
You show over and over again that you have never read the 'whole' Bible or have any clue about the cultures in which the texts were originally written.
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Even the NT gospels have Jesus speaking of the law of hospitality to strangers:

"If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town" Matthew 10:14-15
 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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That is only in the new gay interpretation of the bible. The bible scholars never would agree to that interpretation. How more hospitable can a man be than to offer up his daughters?

You really believe God would wipe out a whole town for not being "hospitable?" For not laying out cookies when a stranger comes by?
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Hospitable? Creepy is more like it.
It's hard to understand how some of these so called "Christians" never seem to get it that Lot (a righteous man favoured by Yahweh) was offering up his young virgin daughters to be gang raped.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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I haven't had sex upside down. Is it fun?
Be careful, it might lead to dancing.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:42 AM
 
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It was not the thing to do that is for sure. Lot was outnumbered and in a corner. A foolish mistake for sure but it never happened anyway.
Of course it was 'the thing to do'- back then. Women and girls were chattel and of little value. The male sojourners or travellers staying under a man's roof were to be protected at all costs- that's what the law of hospitality towards strangers and visitors was about. Male rape was commonly used against male strangers and prisoners of war to humiliate them.
 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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God does not recognize gay marriage if He says gay sex is wrong. Now YOU have God contradicting Himself.
Try reading the WHOLE Bible. It's full of "God contradicting Himself"
 
Old 05-31-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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This is true. "Hate the sin but love the sinner."
That's not from the Bible. Why do you quote Gandhi?

Here's another quote by Gandhi:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
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