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Old 06-19-2013, 12:33 AM
 
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If the random chance works out in your favor, fine, but you shouldn't be allowed to do anything to influence those random chances.
So I guess devout Catholics are among those who you count as murderers, seeing as they rely on the Rhythm Method to help prevent pregnancies.

Hmm.. so you cast the entire human race as murderers if they don't follow your shallow view concerning procreation.

 
Old 06-19-2013, 12:40 AM
 
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So I guess devout Catholics are among those who you count as murderers, seeing as they rely on the Rhythm Method to help prevent pregnancies.

Hmm.. so you cast the entire human race as murderers if they don't follow your shallow view concerning procreation.
Bingo. Puts his assertion regarding being intelligent nicely into perspective, doesn't it?
 
Old 06-19-2013, 01:05 AM
 
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people masturbate.

girls too.

Now they have more information. In the 70's girls hit the vegetable drawer, then felt shame.

Now they get a vibrator and embrace it.

That shame invariably led to sexuality "issues" down the road. Ironically, these issues are what caused this thread; female shame=boredom in the bedroom= the reason angry, posturing men make threads like this.


That's what the "liberal left" accomplished. I'm sorry you think sex should be missionary position, for procreation, and not discussed. You need to grow up. If you can't adapt to sexuality in the 21st century, maybe it's time you found a culture with ideals more in line with your ideals. Syria, Iran, and even Iraq are all lovely religious havens where masturbation and sexual education are shunned. Sounds like Republican Paradise.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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No, because sex does not always lead to a pregnancy. If the random chance works out in your favor, fine, but you shouldn't be allowed to do anything to influence those random chances.

Yes, having a vasectomony and having your tubes tied should be illegal as well.

You know darn well that the statement "to not bear children" was used in this thread as a substitute for an abortion.
My mother had her tubes tied after my little sister was born. She almost died during that pregnancy, and was told that if she had any more children she would more than likely die.
Should she be in jail for having her tubes tied so that she could be there for my sisters and me?
 
Old 06-19-2013, 05:48 AM
 
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I heard you cant get pregnant of you take an "aspirin" everyday...or something.
You have to hold the aspirin between your knees...
 
Old 06-19-2013, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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aqua84 simply does not want to take responsibility for controlling procreation at all. He, she or it wants God to make that decision. God allowed us to create the technology to control reproduction and by doing so made is responsible for the consequences of our actions.

I think teaching kids about sex while they are developing is a good and necessary thing to do. It is far better than letting them find out for themselves the hard way with unwanted pregnancies and sexual transmitted disease. I wish we had this available when I was a kid a long time ago. What my family tried to teach me was so absurd I, thankfully, dismissed it as nonsense. I learned the facts and my companions appreciated that.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Miami, Florida
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For destroying the morals of our children.

Its sickening to see what the progressive left have done to the moral fiber of our society.

HHS Website For Girls, 10 to 16, Informs Youth About Birth Control, Gay Sex,
In Florida they start having sex at age 11, 12. That website serves a good purpose. These kids are constantly brainwashed by radio music and movies showing sex sex sex.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 07:00 AM
 
Location: TX
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In Florida they start having sex at age 11, 12. That website serves a good purpose. These kids are constantly brainwashed by radio music and movies showing sex sex sex.
Any data available that would confirm this is either common in or specific to Florida?

The whole "Teach them about birth control when they are old enough/ready for sex" argument is getting tired. After all, it's been trying to stand on feet that aren't there! For example, there doesn't seem to be any evidence to suggest that teaching kids about birth control at any early age does any harm whatsoever. Conversely, there is reason to believe that not teaching them may result in unplanned pregnancies or STDs.

So there is no data to support the argument. Let's take a look at the "logic" of it all. First question: How will parents know when their child is "old enough/ready for sex"? Do you think the child typically at any age comes up to the parent and says "Mom. I just started liking boys/girls sexually. It's official: I'm old enough and ready to learn about birth control (though I don't even know what it is because you made sure that no one told me)"?

If not at 10, when and why? I'd be all for joining you in saying "NO! Ten is too young, if you would kindly give me a reason why 10 is different from 11, 11 is different from 12, etc.

Let's play a game of "I'll see you ____ and raise you ____". I'll make it easy and start with a Yahoo! Answers page, which has a handful of people saying age 10 (or younger) is about the age girls start liking boys.

What age do girls start liking boys? - Yahoo! Answers

Your turn.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 07:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Vic 2.0 View Post
Do you feel the same way about seat belts? Vaccinations? What about playing in the rain when there's a lot of lightning going on? Jw...

Yeah, I do.

Actually getting struck by lightning is 250,000:1.

And even if you do get struck, you have a 6 in 7 chance of surviving.



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How do you figure? I didn't know you were talking about abortion when you said "deciding not to bear children", because the two simply are not synonyms. You can't blame us for your lack of communication skills...


But they are always used in the same way.

It would be like saying lazy and unmotivated are not synonyms.
 
Old 06-19-2013, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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You could theoretically do something heinous like that anywhere, not just in a clinic.
I submit your story is nonsense, and happens nowhere.

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If you want to support allowing women to abort children, you have to also support women having the right to hurl a 2 week infant against a wall for whatever reason they choose. Otherwise, you're a hypocrite.
No, I don't. I'm not obliged to entertain your crazed notions about fetuses being children. On the other hand, how many abortions have you reported to the police as murder? I'm pretty sure anyone knowing of someone who killed their child by throwing it into a wall would report it as murder. Since you see abortion as being equivalent to that, surely you're on the phone to the cops reporting all these abortions as murder. Right?
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