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Old 06-02-2013, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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So when they spread the people all around the city, why didn't the crime get better? Instead, it got worse as lots of innocent people got caught up in its wake. If you read the article I posted, as they spread into the middle class parts of town, the gangs started targeting smart kids with no records and trying to force them into the gangs as the front men. Because the police would go easier on them when caught. Kids who were just trying to get to college were being beaten and forced into gangs.

The projects weren't the problem. If the problem had been the buildings or the concentration of poor, moving the people out to different parts of town would have solved the problem. But the people took the same culture with them and forced it onto the new areas.

The article mentions Girl Scouts being robbed by thugs at the library. These innocent middle class families weren't even safe at the library once the housing project people were brought into their area.

You should really read the article I posted. It's written by liberals who talk about how this is an uncomfortably subject so people try to ignore it. The culture and mentality has to be changed, and I don't think that can happen until the black community as a whole decides to really get serious about it.
Middle class blacks were affected by the closing of the housing projects just as much as middle class whites. Everyone has a stake in condemning and ending the drugs/violence/dependence culture.
It gives new meaning to the phrase, "Well, there goes the neighborhood"
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:29 AM
 
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The crime did not get better because this behavior had been incubated for so long. Consider the housing projects of Chicago. The criminals who were in the projects kept committing crime unchecked. When the housing projects were destroyed, all it did was spread crime elsewhere, because these issues were never addressed. And consider other things. Very rarely were criminal records checked.

My point is this. I never said there weren't problems going on among low-income Blacks. However, I was saying that all the housing projects really did was incubate those problems.

And consider this. Whenever Black people address such problems, there are many within the underclass who say "you act white" or "you uncle...". As Chris Rock mentioned, alot of Blacks just voted with their feet and left the ghettos and try to get away from such surroundings.

A better question to think about is this. Which segment of the Black population do these issues exist the most?
Yep, put a skirt on a pig and it's still a pig!
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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This is Cleveland. Some of these parents might have just ruined the only graduation they'll ever attend.
Considering the school goes up to the eighth grade,
some of these parents might only be a few years
removed from attending there, themselves.
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:31 AM
 
Location: texas
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whatever...The bottom line is that ....all of the crimes committed by "blacks" are committed by...."blacks".

"Adjust" for any "factors" you like. It doesn't change the race of the criminals...I do NOT care WHY criminals commit crimes. There ARE other options.
That is the ridiculousness of your lame argument...


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all of the crimes committed by "blacks" are committed by...."blacks".
Are you unable to realize that ...all of the crimes "committed by 'blacks' " are also committed by all other ethnic groups...to focus solely on "blacks" is where your lame argument fails so terribly.

You want to use some phony sedo-sceintific gobbly-**** about degree and amount...to which you have no credible corroboration of those "funny-facts".
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:31 AM
 
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A better question to think about is this. Which segment of the Black population do these issues exist the most?
Kids having kids...
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:36 AM
 
Location: texas
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Yep, put a skirt on a pig and it's still a pig!
Nice sentiment but not fully stated...

you put a skirt on a pig, it is still a pig, but skirts are being worn by more than just pigs...Cows, sheep, goats, and even chickens have skirts on...

Get my drift? You focus on the pig, while not seeing the other farm animals doing the same...Why?

Why do you only focus on the pig...Could it be the pig rubs you the wrong way? You dont like pork?
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:46 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Nice sentiment but not fully stated...

you put a skirt on a pig, it is still a pig, but skirts are being worn by more than just pigs...Cows, sheep, goats, and even chickens have skirts on...

Get my drift? You focus on the pig, while not seeing the other farm animals doing the same...Why?

Why do you only focus on the pig...Could it be the pig rubs you the wrong way? You dont like pork?
Because the pig is by far causing the most trouble, that's why. By far the pig in relation to their population, the pig is the biggest scourge on society.
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:51 AM
 
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Because the pig is by far causing the most trouble, that's why. By far the pig in relation to their population, the pig is the biggest scourge on society.
Yep, blame the Black man for every problem in society, forget the fact that Blacks suffer the most in this society.
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Nice sentiment but not fully stated...

you put a skirt on a pig, it is still a pig, but skirts are being worn by more than just pigs...Cows, sheep, goats, and even chickens have skirts on...

Get my drift? You focus on the pig, while not seeing the other farm animals doing the same...Why?

Why do you only focus on the pig...Could it be the pig rubs you the wrong way? You dont like pork?
I don't like the way pigs behave. Always snorting swear words and play music too loud all hours of the night, you know?
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Old 06-02-2013, 07:54 AM
 
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Yep, blame the Black man for every problem in society, forget the fact that Blacks suffer the most in this society.
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